The best example of range-control in boxing? Video. Lopez KO2 Lin

It is a little freaky that he's #53 on both of our most recent lists. As for the rest, Lopez impressed me with his perfection, Jones, while dazzling as he was, had flaws, although he could get away with most. There's no question that Jones should rank much higher, but by the same regard as an imaginary opponent at a higher weight outgunning Lopez, Jones would be outgunned by Foster and I can imagine what would happen there. I think Ricardo could have moved up to about 115lbs and still be a top fighter in the weight, although probably not the division's best.

 

.............If you wanna see a great, tough fight that no one ever speaks about, seek out Lopez-Rosendo Alvarez II. Terrific bout, and the last of Lopez' career.

 

Alvarez(draw and win) when past his prime, having a real struggle, are his best wins, and the closest he ever came to fighting an elite fighter.

Guys like Grigsby, Vorapin, and a green Sorjaturong are pretty good, nothing special. He had two of the better lower weight fighters of that time in Gonzalez and Carbajal, both of which he never fought.

His resume is not special, at all. His boxing ability is, but I'd say Jones Jr. was probably better in that regard honestly, quite a few fighters in fact. I think Napoles and Pep had better footwork. Duran mastered things like feinting and slipping much better, and his versatility and workrate made him much more offesnively offensive and difficult to predict.

I think very highly of him technically(according to the textbook, rthe most sound I've ever seen), but a lot of times the fighters that have a little something extra most times are the greater ones. His lack of resume when he could've fought better fighters is what hurts him.

Does it hurt Jones as well, yes it does, but he actually did prove himself in dominating fashion against the elite, even if it wasn't often after a certain point. Something Lopez never did.

 

............I also agree with Cobra. As we know, Alvarez came in substantially heavier than Lopez in the second fight between the two, in fact I think that led to the WBA not sanctioning the fight; I don;t remember now, but Alvarez was heavy for that one, I remember that much. Lopez, the smaller man, dug down and showed how tough he could be in outdueling the bigger guy. I have no doubt at all he could at the very least have moved up to flyweight and pretty much had his way. He was special.

 

Will do.

PS: Kolya said Washington state smells of pee-pee. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

..............Meh. Tell me all about the qualities Lopez's opponents brought to the ring, then.

 

There are many fighters from 115 and down I'd favor over Lopez, c'mon now. Up to 108 is the last I could see him being even arguably being the best. He could be successful at 112 probably, but no higher. He didn't want any piece of Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson at 112. Arbachakov would've beaten him at Flyweight as well, another fighter with supreme technical skills.

 

..........He only says that because he couldn't hold it in when they crossed the state border. :roll:



The promoter put them up in Fife. He must've got there on a good day, then, if a urine smell was all he had to worry about.

 

............Aw see........you're dodging the question. What was it about Lopez's opposition that you saw that leads you to say he lacked the pedigree? Or, to make it easier, his own style?

Please answer both.

 

Sorjaturong is often rated highly because of his win in later years over Humberto Gonzalez. But Lopez was facing a younger version, one without as much technical ability as Gonzalez, just the power and mauling style to beat him in a brawl at that shot stage of his career. A guy of Sorjaturong's style would've never beaten Lopez, especially given the fact that he didn't have a great chin.

Alvarez showed what would happen when Lopez faced someone who was stronger who could get to him. A guy like Jung-Koo Chang would've been a much sterner test at this, though by this time(and most of Lopez's prime) he was out of the picture.

I haven't seen the Grigsby and Vorapin fights, but they were not very highly rated. I've seen most of the others mentioned in this thread though.