The Best Featherweight ever?

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  1. LordJomski

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    Who do you think it is.. :hey
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Salvador Sanchez, definitely one of them if not the.
     
  3. Drew101

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    Willie Pep (my personal choice)
    Henry Armstrong (dark horse choice)
    Sandy Saddler (another dark horse choice)

    Then, in no real order

    Salvador Sanchez
    Eusebio Pedroza
    Alexis Arguello
    Ernesto Marcel
    Abe Atell
    Jim Driscoll
    Terry McGovern
    George Dixon
    Kid Chocolate
    Freddie Miller
    Johnny Dundee
    Johnny Kilbane
    Vicente Saldivar
    Baby Arizmendi
    Chalky Wright

    Plus...

    Manny Pacquiao
    Marcos Antonio Barerra
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Chris John
    Naseem Hamed
    Petey Sarron
    Battling Battalino
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    edit: Yeah, Pep and Saddler are 1 and 2 for me. Saddler is sometimes underrated quite a bit.

    Nice list.

    Just a couple of notes I have here regarding your "plus" grouping.

    Pacquiao had 5 fights at Featherweight. That is all. Barrera I and then Marquez I. As big of an ATG as Barrera was at that time, I just don't believe he can rate among the greats at Feather because of it.

    Barrera had about twice that number of fights at Featherweight. He has the loss to Pac, but also packed in high quality victories at the weight in Naseem, Morales, Tapia, Kelley, etc.

    Despite JMM having a ton of fights at 126 because he started in that division, almost all of his signature and most meaningful fights have come after he moved up to 130. His 126 resume is good, but does Salido, Gainer, Terdsak, Agapito, and Pacquiao I really compare to the greats of years past in the division?

    Basically, the above three fighters in the discussion of Featherweight rankings all time raise the interesting question of "how do you rate quality and quantity?"

    As for Chris John, he deserves to be in the top tier and not as a "bonus" like the above mentioned P4P guys. 48-0-3, all in one division. That is amazing, especially for the era in which he fights. He misses repeated elite opposition, but he does hold the second most decisive victory ever over the great prime JMM. Combine that with his ledger of traveling for a surprisingly large number of his fights, continued dominance in a division where that does not happen, being the longest reigning titlist in boxing for over 2 years, and remaining undefeated, we have ourselves an underrated and in a fair world very highly ranked Featherweight. Not saying he's top 10 all time, but he really is damn close. More than I fear he will ever be credited for.