The best fight of the last decade? 2011-2020

mr. magoo · Mar 2, 2021

Steve Cunningham vs Amir Monsour

NoNeck · Mar 2, 2021

shza said: ↑

I think most people gave those rounds to Fury based on ring generalship and defense... which 3 can you see for Wilder? I’m usually the first to accept a draw (ie both Canelo-GGG fights) but not this time.

I watched the fight with some Wilder fans and they thought he lost... Chatted with some people who were in the building and they said the vibe was that he lost.. Hell, Wilder is an emotional guy, his face said it all.

Either way though, the fact that there is still a controversy is another reason why this was a classic fight.
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I’m not gonna go through the rounds individually but Wilder was the aggressor and landed more damaging blows in a fight with even punchstats. Since the ten point must system started, I don’t think any challenger has been dropped in separate rounds and won a decision without dropping the champion.

PhillyPhan69 · Mar 2, 2021

shza said: ↑

I think most people gave those rounds to Fury based on ring generalship and defense... which 3 can you see for Wilder? I’m usually the first to accept a draw (ie both Canelo-GGG fights) but not this time.

I watched the fight with some Wilder fans and they thought he lost... Chatted with some people who were in the building and they said the vibe was that he lost.. Hell, Wilder is an emotional guy, his face said it all.

Either way though, the fact that there is still a controversy is another reason why this was a classic fight.
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PhillyPhan69 said: ↑

1 Fury (10-9)
2 Wilder 10-9 (19-19)
3 Fury 10-9 ( Fury 29-28)
4 Wilder 10-9 (38-38)
5 Wilder 10-9 (Wilder 48-47)
6 Fury 10-9 (57-57)
7 Fury 10-9 (Fury 67-66)
8 Fury 10-9 (Fury 77-75)
9 Wilder 10-8 (85-85)
10 Fury 10-9 (Fury 95-94)
11 Fury 10-9 (Fury 105-103)
12 Wilder 10-8 (113-113)

113-113 I had Fury winning 5 of the final 7 rounds...but the 2 KD’s were the equalizer on my card
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NoNeck said: ↑

I have the same card as you except I switched 5 (which I misssed most of) and 6.

I keep getting cards where my score is in line with the judges during supposed robberies.
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I think the decision was fair...I am in the minority but I am cool with that

shza · Mar 2, 2021

PhillyPhan69 said: ↑

I think the decision was fair.. I am in the minority but I am cool with that
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I thought the GGG-Canelo I decision was fair so I know all about that...

Props for posting your card, I only gave Wilder the 2nd and the Kd rounds.

ChrisJS · Mar 2, 2021

Marquez-Pacquaio IV
Chocolatito-Estrada I
Rungvisai-Chocolatito I
Salido-Vargas

I loved Estrada-Cuadras I & II, Chocolatito-Cuadras, Taylor-Prograis, Bradley-Provodnikov, Joshua-Klitshcko, and Inoue-Donaire too.

PhillyPhan69 · Mar 2, 2021

Except for the ending I really didn’t find Pac Marquez IV all that great of a fight. But to each their own

PhillyPhan69 · Mar 2, 2021

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GGG vs Canelo Alvarez I
This is a decent technical fight, but lacked in some of the excitement I was hoping for both then and now. I don’t know where my original scorecard is but I did end with the same outcome just not sure if the rounds are the same...oh well.

The fight: in a nutshell I think Álvarez landed the better harder more telling shots. GGG forced the action dictating the pace of the fight and throwing and landing more shots. I know many/most feel GGG won but I feel many rounds could be tight and scored in a variety of ways. I think 116-112 is realistic for either guy although I have it just a bit tighter. Anyone saying it is wider...and well I question your impartiality and judging. The 118-110 card is as poor as the SRL- Hagler 118-110 card, and both mar what were otherwise interesting if not exciting fights.

Both fighters have/had a lot of in ring respect for the other, as evidenced by some tentativeness reluctance to let it fly. A shame that fans on both sides lack that respect for them both, as they are both great!

Kenny Bayless deserves some props and for much of the fight I didn’t even realize he was there. He did great at staying out of the video frame and the action, and although it was a pretty clean fight, he didn’t interject other than the few times he needed to. Great job Kenny

RBR
1 Canelo (10-9)
2 Canelo (Canelo 20-18)
3 GGG (Canelo 29-28)
4 GGG (38-38)
5 GGG (GGG (48-47)
6 Canelo (57-57)
7 GGG (GGG 67-66)
8 GGG (GGG 77-75)
9 GGG (GGG 87-84)
10 Canelo (GGG 96-94)
11 Canelo (GGG 105-104)
12 Canelo (114-114)
Draw 114-114

I think both guys could have done more to win decisively but neither guy did and I am happy with the official draw apart from Byrd’s card which I do feel is among the worst I have seen (SRL 118-110 Hagler or Roland Dakin 149-137 Minter over Antuofermo off the top of my head) and detracts from 2 otherwise solid fighters. I expect to get ripped by GGG fanboys Or Canelo haters but don’t really care.

I felt there was 2 very very clear not quite wide round but close to it. Rd 4 for GGG and 12 for Canelo (1-1)

I felt there were 6 close rounds that were still a slight favorite. 3 for GGG 3,7,8 and 3 for Canelo 1,2,11. So after what I feel are 8 fairly easy rounds to score....4-4 which is why I feel 116-112 for either guy is realistic and anything wider is not fair or impartial.

4 what I felt were very close rounds 5-6 & 9-10 I split between the 2 guys 2-2.... not on purpose lol. I might score these 4 rounds different each time I watch this fight. Once again I am sure many will disagree.

On the positive side I rewatched this with the UK commentary and found it much more enjoyable and unbiased even though they favored GGG 8-4 & 7-5 they were not actively campaigning for one fighter nor trying to sway viewer opinion like their American counterparts.
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PhillyPhan69 said: ↑

Álvarez vs GGG II
Wow! I had forgotten what a great fun and exciting fight this is! Tactical and strategic like the first fight with more fireworks and better exchanges. Round 4 was super exciting, and rounds 5-6 10 & 12 were also fun. Really the whole fight was fun but those 5 rounds really stood out to me. I have scored this fight twice (this is the 3rd) and has Canelo 115-113 and Draw 114-114...TBF I can see anything between 9-3 Canelo or 117-111 to GGG 7-5 or 115-113. I didn’t have it on either wide end but think they are both realistic cards.

The commentary was much!!!!! improved over the first fight! There was a very slight bend towards GGG, but nothing over the top! Good job in a mostly unbiased commentary!

Ref: Benjy Esteves Jr. great job! His name does not jump out to me from other fights, but I would guess he has reffed some others. I didn’t even realize there was a ref in the ring after the fight was over! Pretty clean fight like the first one for the most part....but great job from a ref at appearing to not even be there. Good job imo

The fighters: 2 warriors who I enjoy and appreciate very much... to Canelo fans and GGG haters you are dopes! To GGG fans and Canelo haters you are idiots...I don’t care much for either of their fans, but love watching these 2 guys fight! This is a fun fight marred by jerk spectators on both sides lol

RBR
1 GGG (10-9)
2 Canelo (19-19)
3 Canelo (Canelo 29-28)
4 GGG (38-38)
5 Canelo (Canelo 48-47)
6 Canelo (Canelo 58-56)
7 Canelo (Canelo 68-65)
8 Canelo (Canelo 78-74)
9 Canelo (Canelo 88-83)
10 GGG (Canelo 97-93)
11 GGG (Canelo 106-103)
12 Canelo (Canelo 116-112)
Canelo 116-112 widest my card has ever come out on this fight.

I think there were 3 very clear rounds! 2-3 for Canelo and 10 for GGG (Canelo 2-1)

I think there were 5 very close rounds but felt 1 guy was able to separate himself: Canelo in 6-7-8 and GGG in 1-11 (Canelo 3-2/5-3).

I think there are 4 rounds that could be fairly scored 4-0/3-1/2-2 for either guy. Canelo 5-9-12 GGG 4. I think those 4 rounds translate to 117-111 for Álvarez or 115-113 GGG. I think the judges did a good job at scoring a tough fight. They were all unanimous 1-6 & 10-11 and scored it 4-4 in rounds. This is where what I felt were 4 close rounds to determine the outcome of this fight, and the judges were divided on all 4 rounds as opposed to the other 8 listed above. 6-8 all 3 were divided with 2 scoring 2-1 for Canelo and the 3rd (judge with the draw card) had it 3-0 Canelo. All 3 judges had it 6-5 Canelo going into the 12th with the draw card judge scoring for GGG and the other 2 for Canelo equaling their 2 115-113 cards.

To me 4-5-9-12 are really the only debatable rounds of the fight and however you see/score them is fine by me...I would only question the other 8 rounds that I feel were fairly clear.
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shza said: ↑

I thought the GGG-Canelo I decision was fair so I know all about that...

Props for posting your card, I only gave Wilder the 2nd and the Kd rounds.
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I am again in the minority because I felt like both Canelo vs GGG decisions were fair.

PhillyPhan69 · Mar 2, 2021

NoNeck said: ↑

Both Canelo--GGG fights

Marquez--Pacquiao IV

Gonzalez--Sor I

Estrada--Cuadras (maybe not, 2nd was better)

Wilder--Ortiz I

Soto Karass--Neeko Macias

Spence--Porter

Ruiz--Joshua
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PhillyPhan69 said: ↑

I agree on the first one...the 2nd one? Not so much
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NoNeck said: ↑

I thought it was exciting to see Canelo back up his preflight talk and put GGG on his back foot, which seemed impossible at the time.
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just thought I would say you were right and I had them mixed up...the 2nd fight was probably better

George Crowcroft · Mar 2, 2021

PhillyPhan69 said: ↑

Except for the ending I really didn’t find Pac Marquez IV all that great of a fight. But to each their own
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This^

McGrain · Mar 2, 2021

Salty Dog said: ↑

KTFO6
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true facts

Flo_Raiden · Mar 2, 2021

In no order:

2011
Akira Yaegashi vs Pornsawan Porpramook
Adrien Hernandez vs Kompayak Porpramook
Pawel Wolack vs Delvin Rodriguez 1
Hernan Marquez vs Luis Concepcion
Erik Morales vs Marcos Maidana
Victor Ortiz vs Andre Berto
Jorge Linares vs Antonio DeMarco
Orlando Salido vs Juanma Lopez 1
Jorge Arce vs Wilfredo Vazquez Jr

2012
Brandon Rios vs Mike Alvarado 1
Manny Pacquiao vs JMM 4
Marcos Maidana vs Jesus Soto Karass
Orlando Salido vs Juanma Lopez 2
Roman Gonzalez vs Juan Francisco Estrada 1
Lucas Matthysse vs Humberto Soto

2013
Timothy Bradley vs Ruslan Provodnikov
Omar Figueroa vs Nihito Arakawa
Brandon Rios vs Mike Alvarado 2
Guillermo Jones vs Denis Lebedev
Giovanni Segura vs Hernan Marquez

2014
Orlando Salido vs Terdsak Kokietgym
Monty Meza Clay vs Alan Herrera
Lucas Matthysse vs John Molina Jr

2015
Francisco Vargas vs Takashi Miura
Orlando Salido vs Rocky Martinez 1 & 2
Andrjez Fonfara vs Nathan Cleverly
Krzysztof Glowacki vs Marco Huck

2016
Keith Thurman vs Shawn Porter
Orlando Salido vs Francisco Vargas
Roman Gonzalez vs Carlos Cuadras
Leo Santa Cruz vs Carl Frampton
Shinsuke Yamanaka vs Anselmo Moreno 2
Dillian Whyte vs Dereck Chisora

2017
Roman Gonzalez vs Srisaket Sor Rungvisai 1
Takashi Miura vs Mickey Roman
Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko
GGG vs Canelo 1
Orlando Salido vs Miguel Roman
Juan Francisco Estrada vs Carlos Cuadras 1
James Degale vs Badou Jack
Oscar Valdez vs Miguel Marriaga / Genesis Servania

2018
Kosei Tanaka vs Sho Kimura
Nawaphon Kaikanha vs Amnat Ruenroeng
Srisaket Sor Rungvisai vs Juan Francisco Estrada 1
GGG vs Canelo 2
Vasyl Lomachenko vs Jorge Linares
Jarett Hurd vs. Erislandy Lara
Murat Gassiev vs. Yunier Dorticos
Oleksandr Usyk vs Mairis Bredis

Flo_Raiden · Mar 2, 2021

2019 was definitely a great year for boxing. So many great fights.

Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire
Josh Taylor vs Regis Prograis
Errol Spence vs Shawn Porter
GGG vs Sergiy Derevychenko
Artur Beterbiev vs Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Julian Williams vs Jarrett Hurd
Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz 1
Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman
Jose Ramirez vs Maurice Hooker
Sergey Kovalev vs Anthony Yarde
Munguai vs Inoue
Talarek vs Szymanski
Ritson vs Davies Jr
Rigondeaux vs Ceja
Roman vs Doheny
James vs DeMarco
Rios vs De La Hoya
Bolotniks vs Gasonov
Demchenko vs Zoulikha 2
Kownacki vs Arreola
Estrada vs Esparza
Figueroa vs Ceja

Big Red · Mar 2, 2021

Pavlik vs Miranda

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