The best fighter ever at age ____

I think Holmes is clearly third out of them. He was opportunistic in opponent selection when the heavyweight title wasn't on the line. It worked well against Mercer, but not so much against McCall. He didn't win a belt.

Foreman completed the best resume beating Rodriguez, Stewart, and Moorer plus the close fights with Schultz and Briggs which were excusable due to being a fossil by then. The Morrison loss wasn't good and I don't think Tommy would've stood a chance against Vitali.

Vitali ushered in his forties as a reigning champion and blew away highly ranked Adamek, then beat Chisora and Charr before retiring.

So Foreman has it on resume, but as far being a feared champion, Vitali of the Adamek fight was fighting at a higher level than any other heavyweight who was that old.

 

I don't think Leonard was as good as Jones.

You could argue Robinson. Who did he beat around that age?

 

Leonard's resume is better than Jones. Robinson is the GOAT.

 

Like I said, Holmes over undefeated Mercer is better than Vitali over blown up light heavyweight Adamek or anyone else. Foreman over Moorer is also superior to Vitali's reign in his 40's, which to be honest wasn't much.

If Vitali only has victories over Adamek, Chisora and Charr, that leaves a lot to be desired. It's on par with Foreman's victories over Grimsley, Savarese and Schulz.

 

Not true. Adamek was at his peak and the only guys above him were Povetkin and the k bros. Those three you named weren't rated, and Foreman didn't beat Schultz. Schultz was maybe comparable to Chisora and Savarese to Charr.

I said in my first post that Holmes and Foreman had the best two wins, but Vitali looked the part and was the only one who defending a title and not losing, let alone to second rate fighters. Adamek was from the same tier as Mercer and had the tools to beat him. Moorer was a little above them but lacked a chin.

 

Vitali has only 3 fights in his 40's against decent opposition. I rate Mercer higher than Adamek, by a lot. Moorer's chin has nothing to do with this thread. Moorer is rated far higher than Adamek as well.

I'd take Vitali at 40 better than Holmes and Foreman, but not the 40's as a whole. I just can't with names like Charr and Chisora.

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Adamek would beat Mercer though.


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I don't think so. It's possible but Adamek was nothing special.

 

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Well, Mercer lost to Ferguson and Holmes. He barely beat Ferguson in a rematch and had a draw with Marion Wilson. He was losing hopelessly to Damiani and was also down on the cards against Morrison before bailing himself out. Those were his only good wins, other than maybe beating a shot Witherspoon. Chances are Adamek would win a decision. He was hard to stop.

 

Glazkov, Spilka, and Wlad are irrelevant loses.

 

True, I was just filling in the blanks.

 

Best fighter age 14 - Les Darcy
Best fighter age 15 - Les Darcy
Best fighter age 16 - Les Darcy
Best fighter age 17 - Les Darcy
Best Fighter age 18 - Les Darcy
Best Fighter age 19 - Les Darcy
Best Fighter age 20 - Les Darcy
Best Fighter age 21 - NOT Les Darcy because he was dead

Best fighter age 44 or over - George Foreman

Best fighter age past 55 - Larry Foley


Great thread, I got to list Darcy many times.

 

Nothing Special ??? hell the man was awesome he was just too small and light for heavyweights but at Cruiserweight Adamek is a great fighter, one of the very best I have seen this century.