The best fighter you've "seen" at each weight.

DirtyDan · Jan 19, 2021

HW- Joe Louis from 38-42
CW- Holyfield from 86-88
LHW- Gene Tunney from 1921-1925
SMW- Roy Jones from 94-96
MW- Marvin Hagler from 80-85
JMW- Winky Wright from 03-05
WW- Ray Robinson from 45-50
JWW- Kosta Zoo from 99-01
LW- Carlos Ortiz from 62-65
SFW- Hector Camacho from 82-83
FW- Salvador Sanchez from 81-82
SBW- Wilfredo Gomez from 77-79
BW- Naoya Inoue from 2018-present
JBW- Vic Darch from 2008-2009
FlyW- Nonito Donaire from 07-09
JFly- Michael Carbajal from 92-94
MinW- Ivan Calderon from 03-05

he grant · Jan 19, 2021

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Heavyweight: Muhammad Ali (1964-67) or Lennox Lewis (1997-00). It pains me to say Lennox but I put him pretty damn high H2H with his mix of size, skill, power, strength, and athleticism.

Cruiserweight: Evander Holyfield. I think Rocky Marciano would have been too small for a lot of great (and some not so great) heavyweights in history but he would have been a force at cruiserweight.

Light Heavyweight: Michael Spinks. Bob Foster is up there too, and I think a match between the two of them is 50/50. Roy Jones is also up there, I don’t think his chin was always as bad as it became, but I still have him being a slight to mild underdog against Spinks and Foster. Spinks’s versatility makes me put him tentatively at the top. Not enough footage of Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles that I’ve seen to put them at the top. Most of the Moore stuff I’ve seen was when he was an old man (first Durelle fight is one of the greatest fights ever)

Super Middleweight: Roy Jones. The absolutely easiest choice for me to pick.

Middleweight: Marvin Hagler. A versatile guy who would box and brawl, fight from either stance, heavy hands, very accurate, great jab and combos, solid defense, iron chin, great conditioning and desire to win. I know the loss to Willie Monroe was not controversial, but all the other losses he had, I thought he won or drew. I had him beating Boogaloo, drawing with Leonard, and also beating Vito in that draw.

Most of the Sugar Ray Robinson fights I’ve seen of him were past his prime, after his first retirement following the Joey Maxim fight. In earlier fights at 160 (Jake LaMotta 6 and Rocky Graziano), he looked excellent for the most part. He took more jabs from LaMotta than I expected, but then unleashed all hell on him later on. You could see how free flowing he was with his hands and combination punching. Roy was a freak of nature, but he was relatively inexperienced during his time at 160. I guess you can say his prime began in the Thomas Tate fight, his last at 160, and looked brilliant in that short fight. But still, I have to put Hagler first.

Junior Middleweight: Tommy Hearns. I love watching Felix Trinidad’s fights at 154, but I think Hearns would have a field day with the straight right hand. I wouldn’t argue against Mike McCallum either.

Welterweight: Sugar Ray Leonard from 1979-82 is one of the best fighters to ever be captured on film. That actually says a lot about Roberto Duran too for that matter.

I really haven’t seen enough fights of Jose Napoles and Emile Griffith to accurately assess how I would have them at welter.

Junior Welterweight: Both Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather spent short time in winning belts at 140 as opposed to more accomplished 140 lb champs like Aaron Pryor and JC Chavez. Same with Manny Pacquiao, he only had one fight there. But as it is, I still favor Whitaker to beat the others by decision, so I have him first in terms of H2H.

Lightweight: Roberto Duran. No argument against those that would pick Whitaker over him, but I lean towards Duran.

Junior Lightweight: Floyd Mayweather. Alexis Arguello and JC Chavez have cases too. Arguello would give Floyd a tougher fight than often given credit for. He may be similar in frame to Diego Corrales and also not the quickest on his feet, but he was a clever boxer with basically every punch in the book. I think he drops a competitive decision. I think Chavez has a better chance at beating Floyd. Floyd was very selective with his punches and could allow himself to get outworked by guys applying pressure. And Chavez was brilliant at applying pressure. But I’d make Arguello a slight favorite over Chavez. Arguello’s punches would be harder to walk through than Floyd’s. And although Chavez could box and move use the ring when he needed to (Lockridge fight), I think that kind of style of fight might favor Arguello.

Azumah Nelson was an excellent fighter but I would have to make him the underdog against the above. And Hector Camacho would be a tough fight, but I keep thinking he would get too defensive after getting hit too hard/often and drop decisions.
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pretty excellent post.

he grant · Jan 19, 2021

Ali

Louis ( my pick at cruiser )

Charles

Jones

Monzon ( love Hagler but just feel he’d choke )

McCallum

Leonard

Mayweather

Duran

Arguello

Sanchez.

PernellSweetPea · Jan 19, 2021

Heavy - Muhammad Ali
Cruiser - Evander Holyfield
Lightheavy - Bob Foster
Supermiddle - Roy Jones Jr
Middle - Sugar Ray Robinson
JuniorMiddle - Thomas Hearns
Welter - Sugar Ray Leonard
Juniorwelter - Julio Cesar Chavez
Lightweight - Pernell Whittaker
Superfeather - Azumah Nelson
Feather - Henry Armstrong
Junior Feather Wilfred Gomez
Bantamweight -Galaxy
Junior fly- Humberto Gonzales
mini/light fly Ricardo Lopez

Scrap_Iron_Johnson · Jan 20, 2021

Blaxx said: ↑

JWW - Jose Napoles
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Love seeing Mantequilla on a list.
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he grant · Jan 20, 2021

he grant said: ↑

Ali

Louis ( my pick at cruiser )

Charles

Jones

Monzon ( love Hagler but just feel he’d choke )

McCallum

Leonard

Mayweather

Duran

Arguello

Sanchez.
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Frankus · Jan 20, 2021

HW: Tyson
CW: Holyfield
LHW: Spinks
SMW: Jones Jr
MW: Hagler
JMW: Hearns
WW: Duran
JWW: Pryor
LW: Duran
SFW: Floyd
FW: Pep

My 2 cents anyway.

Kamikaze · Jan 21, 2021

Bantam weight- Edre Jofre

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