The best fighters you'd take Pacquiao over in any weight class?

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    We were, yeah.

    I just think that speed and straight shots by Pac are hell for Saldivar and he will take time to figure it out and would not be able to just up the pace, as he would against a more conventional fighter, as he does not know what he has to do to up it until he has sussed Pac out.

    Its a 50-50 fight though, add an extra round on it and I favour Saldivar though.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

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    Oscar and the crop of welters from his legit welterweight period were much better overall than Pac's, imo. I have a soft spot for Cotto, but honestly, old Shane, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, these guys are not on the level of Trinidad, ODLH, young Shane, Forrest, Quartey. Not the way I see it anyway. I think Pac would be exposed as too small for them. Then I would probably lose a bunch of money because Pacquiao is apparently into voodoo or some ****. :twisted: What was I saying? Oh, yeah, **** I'm sick. You can mix NyQuil with whiskey, it doesn't hurt anything! :!:
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    How about Mayweather? Anyone picking Pac to beat him, and if so, do you see him as the best fighter Paquiao should be picked to beat?
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Allot of people have lost money, betted against Pac and hes proved them wrong time and again. Not seeing he beats these fighters either
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    While stylistically I think Mayweather's all wrong, his lack of desire, innactivity and age means I won't be betting too much on this fight. If Pacquaio beats FMJ I think you have to ask this question again

    How about Pacquaio-Ross, tricky style for Pac but physically hes a whole other animal
     
  6. Tin_Ribs

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    If fights were won on skillset and style alone, I'd pick Mayweather without too much hesitation, however much of a **** I think he is. I still pick him, but I'll be uncertain that he has the mentality to implement his toolkit fully against Pacquiao until I see him do it. Don't wanna get drawn into this one though, having to think about Mayweather for too long makes my brain bleed.
     
  7. Tin_Ribs

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    The speed and straight punching could a real testicle ache for Saldivar to deal with if he didn't get going quick enough. I still like him about 60-40 over 10 rounds though.

    This is probably a churlish complaint to make against Pacquaio when you consider how effective he's proven himself to be time and time against the odds, but I think that his combinations, however fast, are a bit predictable once you suss the pattern. I think he'd struggle to time somebody like Armstrong consistently on the way in even with the handspeed advantage he has, what with Armstrong's low, tilted head, weaving and underrated defence. And once the distance has been closed, he'd have an even tougher time of it as far as I can see.
     
  8. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jofre, Armstrong, Saddler and Arguello would be the best i'd pick him over. De La Hoya and Trinidad also and i don't see why he couldnt outwork Whitaker for a Spit Dec, though not sure i'd favour him. Same with JC Chavez.

    Pep would take him to school though. Olivares would stretch him out eventually and Harada woud beat him up. Prime Mosley would KO him, no doubt in my mind. Pryor too awkward and too tough, i think he bullies Pac and its a bad matchup
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Pretty much agree 100%.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just how good a ca 140-150 lbs Pac is will hopefully be revealed over the next few fights. If he convinces against Margarito as well and beats Floyd he should be regarded very highly in h2h terms around that weight. P4P it may well mean a rearrangement of the top 5 is in order. It will take some time for many to aknowledge this, but there it is.

    But as of right now it's hard to say, since he hasn't really stayed along around one particular weight long enough.
     
  11. Boxed Ears

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    The weight jumping as far as rating goes, kind of a double-edged sword. Or a single, wait, **** it. I have to go back to sleep. I know what I mean.
     
  12. D.T

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    These fighters could DEFINITELY beat Pacquiao:

    Thomas Hearns
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Julian Jackson
    Gerald McClellan
    Jose Napoles
    Barbados Joe Walcott
    Pernell Whitaker
    Ike Williams
    Tony Canzoneri
    Barney Ross
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Eder Jofre
    Carlos Zarate
    Ruben Olivares
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    You should have named Tyson after McClellan.
     
  14. bodhi

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    Depends on the weight IMO. At ww I think Pac is in with a very good chance against Armstrong. At fw he isn´t in with any at all.


    Prime PBF beats Pac at every weight. PBF has a big style advantage, speed is about the same and he has enough power to keep Pac honest. At the moment I slightly favour Pac though. Mayweather slowed down quite a bit and his tendency to let himself backed up intp the ropes will spell problem when he can´t counter as he is used too and he wouldn´t since Pac is faster than him now.



    Ross would do what JMM did just better IMO.


    DDpends how Margo looks I think. He was out for a long time and isn´t the youngest anymore. I don´t think that even with this wins he would be Top5 at ww. This division is too deep for that.
     
  15. Johnstown

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    he takes butterbean today ;)