The best heavies to never win a world belt

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What happened with razor ruddock after the Lewis fight ? What kind of problems -??
     
  2. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What kind of personal problems did razor ruddock have after Lewis bout ?? I know problems with his brother delroy and Murahd Muhammad before Morrison bout .... what other problems did he have .???
     
  3. BeantownAll

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    Lot of good names getting mentioned in this thread. Four stand out to me. In no particular order...

    - Ike Ibeabuchi
    - David Tua
    - George Chuvalo
    - Luis Ortiz

    I would have liked to put Razor Ruddock on the list. But he had two shots at Tyson, didn't convert either, and was in sharp decline by aged 30.
     
  4. Boxing Gloves

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  5. Bokaj

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    People confuse muscles and actual accomplishements in the ring.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe Ike, but the others... No. Chuvalo had his chances but just wasn't good enough to take them. And who has Ortiz ever beat? Tua was well beaten by Byrd and Lewis in his prime, not really what should happen to umcrowned champion material.
     
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  7. Bokaj

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    He held a belt briefly. That was more or less his level.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he was better boxer than Ali from 70 ies and I consider Ali fans as very annoying and boring thing in internet.

    Also I think that Foreman was better than Ali in 70 ies and Frazier too.

    I do not care about Ali Fans in internet or their opinions.
    Noise in internet are all Ali fans.
     
  9. RazzAxx

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    Golota beat PRIME Riddick Bowe Twice. He should've earned a title with a tiny little bit of more discipline in himself.
     
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  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    didn't Golota had problems with his leg?
     
  11. Boxing Gloves

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    What belt did he win?
     
  12. johnny_o

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    His head.
     
  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George Chuvalo
     
  14. BeantownAll

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    Fair points.

    It was always pretty unlikely that Tua was going to work his way inside on Lewis. That Byrd fight? With all respect to Chris, he spent that fight dancing around and jabbing at him. That can be dangerous (just ask Fres Oquendo) - but

    Maybe you are right about Ortiz. I think there was probably a couple year stretch (2015-2016) when Luis Ortiz was the most dangerous heavyweight fighter in the world. Nobody wanted anything to do with him. But, yeah, I should probably consider him a "what might have been" kind of fighter. We didn't get a great look at him in his prime.

    Chuvalo was operating when the division was packed - but you are right to point out that he did have his chances and didn't convert them.
     
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  15. BeantownAll

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    Foreman was a huge puncher, yes. But he tired too easily. This happend with Ali (already declining) and with Jimmy Young. There is no perfect fighter. Foreman was not perfect. Ali was not perfect.