The best I`ve faced: Hagler (the ring magazine)

Look, I'm here to enrich myself. I didn't realize Minter was Mr. paper skin. I was aware he was stopped twice or so on cuts. Now I know it was a lot more than that.

It's not like you were the one to correct me, that would be a true ratirety.

As for corrections, that is you mostly on a monthly basis. I still say 2 1/2 rounds is not enough to determine an opponent's best chin.

 

Who were they and when was this reported, before or after the fight?

 

the weaver triplets

and it was reported in March 1987

not only that but I was in attendance to see one of the sessions myself and posted a pic in 2008.

Being that the triplets made Marvin look like old and get out hit 50-1, it renders your point invalid. You said "Marvin wasnt old; Leonard just made him look old"

but you werent in attendance to know otherwise. You are in error just as you are in error about Minter's tko losses, mistakenly thinking he had a glass jaw

btw, a successful defense against number 1 contender Micheal Nunn would erased a lot of suspicions and doubts but leonard instead didnt want to reveal that he couldnt hack it against an up and comer like Nunn. Fortunately, we still got to see it against Norris

Leonard wasnt old; Norris just made him LOOK old!

 

yeah, he corrected you alright

Mcvey knows a LOT more than you!

 

stylistically a bad fight for Ray.. And Ray was weakened. Ray picks a guy who can punch and is faster than him and younger. So everything Ray can do and what were his strengths are taken away. The speed was everything in that fight but the weight problems made it even harder to land a lucky punch against the weak chin of Norris. Sometimes I think he picked Norris to have an excuse to get out of boxing.

 

Oh its personal. .How many times has Hagler said in interviews "Ray Leonard made 3 times as much for his 1st pro fight than i did "....well yeah that's what happens when you win a gold medal ...I'll bet Meldrick Taylor made more for his 1st pro fight than Julio Cesar Chavez

 

I corrected you, alongside several others who also know a damn sight more than you do!
Minter comes from Crawley about 45 minutes from me, I watched him come up from the amateurs when he was called," Boom Boom ". One of my drinking buddies boxed him in the amatuers.
Here's what I posted.
"Ignorant post, Minter was only ko'd once, by big left hooker Tony Sibson.I was ringside for the Hagler fight, Minter was never off his feet."

RATIRETY??? Mendoza Speak?lol

 

Interesting! Now we have 2 posters who think punch stats determine who wins fights lol.

 

Ray wasnt weakened. who said Ray was weakened?

the truth is Terry took him out of the fight early, by rounds two & three before Ray COULD weaken so there goes your next lie

Had Ray taken control early in the fight and then showed a slowdown later, then I could see your point

another theory that went bust

 

yeah, punchstat is bull sh*t. I never had any faith in that gimick

 

Ant didn't use the term " i feel " though did he?
Tbh i doubt he feels much of anything, lol.

 

That is my theory about Ray and I think he was weak losing to 154, a weight he had not fought at since 1984 at least. He looked weak and his development looked flat. And to think he fought Lalonde at 168 for two titles. Even for Camacho he looked better, yet there had an excuse that he had a calf injury which limited his mobility. I don't know why Ray picked that fight with Norri . And your argument had Ray taken control of the fight early then showed a slowdown later backs up what I say about Duran in the second Leonard fight. If Duran took control of the fight but slowed down later, that would show he was not trained. But he was beating beaten from the get go in the second fight, and the variable was Ray Leonard on his toes.