The best Lennox Lewis vs The best Evander Holyfield: Who wins?

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  1. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    It's a landslide!

    Lennox by almost 3 votes to 1. :yep

    That's a huge margin when you consider the difference in popularity.
     
  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Just further indication of how utterly overrated Lewis is on this site, and how underrated Holyfield is! :nod
     
  3. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    I wondered how long it would take for you to get in here with your excuses.

    :yep
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    The "common wisdom" is often distorted by a "group-think" mentality, and these understandings also shift over time.

    I also suspect that if Holyfield wins another belt at this advanced age - which as you guys might imagine I am BIGTIME rooting for - there will be some reevaluation of his historical status, and perhaps he will start to get the credit he deserves as the greatest HW of his era!!!:happy
     
  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And the number of American posters compared to brits in here :D
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To suggest Bowe had more talent that Lewis is laughable. Firstly they met in the olympics an fought for a gold metal. My guess it Bowe would have very much liked to have won that fight. He lost. Then in their professional careers Bowe clearly ducked Lewis when he had the chance to fight him. I don't usually make those kind of accusations because more often than not other factors, such as money, enter into the equation, but in this case it was clearly the case. Then of course you have their respective records which speak for themselves. The Golota bouts might be a fair comparison since he's a common opponent.
     
  7. streetsaresafer

    streetsaresafer Member Full Member

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    I take Holyfield prime v. prime due to his increased workrate.

    Early 90s heavyweight era was damn good, but I think it could have been better than the 70s golden age had just 2 things been different
    1. Tyson had not gone to jail (probably should have been acquitted)
    2. and Bowe was willing to fight Lewis
    We would have really gotten a chance to see who the best was
    These are some of the fights that could have happened
    91 Tyson/Holyfield
    92 Holy/Bowe (same as before)
    93 Bowe/Lewis
    93 Bowe/Holy II (same as before)
    94 Holy/Lewis
    94 Tyson/Bowe
    95 Tyson/Lewis
    95 Holy/Tyson II
    95 Bowe/Lewis II
    Amazing what could have been
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    You do realise that if Holyfield wins another belt, that

    a) Lewis' wins over Holyfield become even more significant
    b) It adds nothing to Holyfield being the man in the 90's or not

    Right?
     
  9. bigG

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    tyson got no credit for beating holmes cos holmes had been innactive for a long period..there was one glorious spurt in that fight, when larry says to his corner, big round baby, big round, and goes out, gets up on his toes and looks like the larry of old, shooting out his jab..before gettin starched..this brief freeze frame really made me think..what if....a prime holmes vs tyson...i think larry woulda handled mikey relatively easily...dare i say, the holmes that holy beat was older for sure, but he was a better reincarnation than the one mike fought.....i still say prime holyfield is a handful for any h/w champ....as is prime lewis.....instead of bitchin about tyson/holyfield/lewis/bowe why dont we just give thanks that, for a brief period, we had a superb h/w division full of talent...any of these four fighters, yes, including bowe, would compete with any h/w champ in history...not win mind, but be competitive....i still take 'vander prime over lewis prime..but a tough fight for sure...
     
  10. Boinko

    Boinko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zakman
    Of course, if Holyfield does someday start to be perceived as a better heavyweight than Lewis how do you know that won't just be an example of distorted "group think" wisdom as well, arising from revisionists like yourself who absolutely can't handle the possibility that Lewis might have been a better heavyweight than Evander.
    Your constant claims that Lewis' high ranking (often above Holyfield) is some sort of anomoly that will be corrected over time when people start to think more clearly is insulting to knowledgable fans and is the height of arrogance.

    I respect fan's opinions who rank Evander above Lewis even though I don't agree with them. But, I'm not arrogant enough to rant about how such fans are delusional, misguided, or victims of "distorted group think."
    Show some respect for the opinions of you fellow forum members. I know you find the idea that Lewis would get ranked about Holyfield as totally unbearable, but the ESB fans have spoken in this thread.
     
  11. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    its strange...i think vander rates higher as a fighter..ie prime for prime, he beats lewis...but lewis is probaly higher on the atg list on acheivments/opposition...
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    I actually think the opposite is true. I think h2h, Lewis wins. In heavyweight achievements, Lewis also wins. In career achievements, counting Holyfields stint at Cruiser, he wins. He also wins ins the p4p department between the two. Obviously they are two great fighters.
     
  13. JAM Killer

    JAM Killer Coming Through. Full Member

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    I will give it to Lennox. By a hair.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Lewis is simply a better boxer. He is a more complete boxer puncher who is far more intelligent.
     
  15. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree..a better BOXER...not a better FIGHTER tho...