The best of the best: the one peak performance of ATGs

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  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR: Jimmy Doyle
    Duran: Leonard
    Ali: Folley. Normally, it would be Williams, but he was shot when he faced Ali, so he don't count.
    Leonard: probably Dave Boy Green.
    Roy Jones: Toney, Pazienza
    Mayweather: Canelo for me.
    Hagler: Hearns.
    Tyson: Spinks.
     
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  2. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, but he only came from behind cause Tommy gassed out. Otherwise, Tommy's winning that all day long.
     
  3. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alexis Arguello vs Alfredo Escalera 1
     
  4. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield vs Carlos Deleon
     
  5. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar Delahoya vs Miguel Angel Gonzalez
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll add a few more mate

    Salvador Sanchez = Danny Lopez 1
    Pernell Whitaker = Jose Luis Ramirez 2
    Mike Tyson = Tyrell Biggs
    Bernard Hopkins = Felix Trinidad
    James Toney = Iran Barkley
    Larry Holmes = Earnie Shavers 1
    Terry Norris = Simon Brown 2
    Mike McCallum = Michael Watson
    Thomas Hearns = Roberto Duran
    Lennox Lewis = Tommy Morrison
    Evander Holyfield = Dwight Muhammad Qawi 2
    Nicolino Locche = Takeshi Fuji
     
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  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Thanku my pal
     
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  8. SomeFella

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    Accepting your evaluation of that bout as fact you still concede that the rightful winner was SRL & he won fair and square? Remember the key word "until", and out of all the great victories of SRR the best performance is against Jimmy Doyle because he killed him due to a hard and unusually damaging fall into the canvas with a prexisting condition that didn't have much to do with Robinson? to quote boxrec wiki:

    "Hospital attaches said Doyle was suffering from a blood clot..."
    "Dr. A.F. Hagedorn, Cleveland boxing commission chairman, however said last night's injury was a fresh one. He described it as separation of a brain membrane caused when the fighter's head hit the ring floor."

    Just to put this on record, you think that if a fighter loses energy while ahead and then loses the fight because of that that it shoudn't count,despite that fact that pacing is an important part of boxing? And that killing an opponent is an automatic best performance?
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some good choices here, especially RJJ, Hagler and Duran.

    As great as Duran was vs. Leonard in Montreal, the DeJesus III fight is a quantum leap for him in style and marked a rise to an almost unapproachable status at 135 — now he was showing he could outbox a boxer as well as outslug anyone.
     
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  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Leonard vs Hearns, a truly great performance by Ray - sure, he was behind but he tenaciously kept fighting like he was well and truly in the hunt - and Ray ultimately fulfilled the rock solid nature of his own confidence and intent.

    Tommy didn’t just gas/lose his legs in a vacuum - Ray ripped some beautiful body shots at every opportunity during the fight to take the steam out of Tommy.

    I will say though, Rays losing performance vs Duran was actually right up there with Ray’s greatest - despite strategically handicapping himself (imo).

    Ray hurt Duran a lot more than has been generally observed and I personally had the fight somewhat closer than most. The duress from Duran served to induce an amazing display of infighting and fighting off the ropes from Leonard.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield: Bowe I

    Even in defeat he was incredible
     
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  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I saw Buddy Baer II selected for Joe Louis. That’s an interesting pick. In that fight, Louis was pin point accurate, couldn’t miss. He just looked perfect and the apparent force of his each and other punch was unworldly.

    I personally choose Louis vs Max Baer. A far more energised and mobile Louis than we are used to seeing. Joe displays many highly effective, nuanced techniques during the course of the fight. There’s the head movement, the blocks and parries, the very deft footwork etc.

    Joe was also pumping the jab more consistently than other fights, snapping Baer’s head back each and every time - and setting up his power shots beautifully.

    Just an all round, comprehensive display from The Bomber. To methodically break down such a durable fighter as Baer in just 4 rounds was something else.
     
  13. Seamus

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    Sugar Ray Robinson: Ducking Charley Burley
    Henry Armstrong: Chalky Wright
    Joe Louis: Max 2
    Muhammad Ali: Foreman
    Roberto Duran: Ray Leonard
    Ezzard Charles: Elmer Ray KO9
    Sugar Ray Leonard: Hearns 1
    Manny Pacquiao: Hatton
    Floyd Mayweather: Nothing stands out.
    Roy Jones: Thomas Tate
    Jose Napoles: Cokes 1
    Marvin Hagler: Hamsho 1