Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Aug 31, 2021.
Yeah, he definitely wasn't. But I'm saying he was still better than Nunn.
I disagree. 15 of Ray's 19 career losses came when he was competing at 160 or higher. Only a prime James Toney beat Nunn at 160 and he was losing badly when he caught Nunn in the 11th round. Look at some of the the names Robinson lost to at the end of his career.
That does not mean that I think Nunn was a better fighter than Ray. But I do believe he was a better Middleweight.
I just don't see Nunn keeping Fullmer's ugly style at bay for 15.
I see Nunn taking an early lead by outboxing Fullmer before Fullmer's rough style gradually wears on him late. Fullmer in a very close fight over 15.
It's a dead heat overnight and will be decided in 12 hours by whoever votes between now and then.
Just how I always dreamed it...
13 of those losses came in the sixties. There is no point using those against Robinson, for obvious reasons. Robinson looked dazzling vs Olson in their third and fourth fights. He was still better than Nunn, and he'd have beaten Toney as well.
Again, I disagree and am moving on.
Since my vote might end up being the telling one i think Fullmer would sneak by Nunn over 15 rounds mostly because it's "15". I'd very likely favor Nunn over 10 or 12. I think Fullmers stamina, proven experience and ability over 15 let him grind away enough to be ahead at the tape.
Not much in it and i certainly wouldn't throw out any argument for Nunn. Nothing in it IMO.
If the fight takes place n the 70's as per opening post Nunn has to make 160lbs same day he fights, no way would he able to do that and fight 15 hard rounds which is whats required against Gene. He'd slow down significantly and Gene would maul him down the stretch to get the win.
Michael Nunn took a controversial decision from Gene Fullmer, two of the judges finding it for him by a single round, the third seeing it mirror although no two people in attendance seemed to have the same scorecard.
The issue seemed to be that while Nunn consistently out-touched Fullmer, Fullmer forced violent exchanges in every round bar the first, second, third and fifth, and tended to come out better in each of these exchanges. He also enjoyed a better run-in with a brave Nunn becoming disorganised down the stretched.
Still, it was Fullmer, not Nunn, who bore the evidence of leather on skin, bleeding from several small cuts and suffering swelling around both eyes. Nunn out-landed Fullmer in every round including with some hurtful straights; having dominated the early part of the fight, it was enough to get him over the line in a great fight that divided spectators neatly down the middle.
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