The Best of the Rest: 175lbs Tier II Tournie - QF 1: John Conteh UD15 Max Rosenbloom

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Who will win?

Poll closed Jul 28, 2021.
  1. Conteh T/KO

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  2. Conteh Points

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  3. Rosenbloom Points

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  4. Rosenbloom T/KO

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The first Quarter-Final of the tournament brings together two of the favourites to win the whole bag; John Conteh out of Liverpool and Max Rosenbloom out of New York. Two left-handed geniuses with 3 stoppage losses between them in 300 fights. So we're looking at a decision here, almost certainly.

    JOHN CONTEH (34-4-1)
    So far Conteh has been broadly untested, coasting his way to a one-handed 15 round decision victory over Zsolt Erdie in the first round that some onlookers scored by shutout. In the second round he met with the much more storied Joey Maxim but once again, there was only one fighter in the fight as Coneh boxed around Maxim's deploy and score style with great ease, turning up the heat as the championship rounds approached, likely only a damaged right keeping Maxim in the fight up to the final bell. This was the performance, the manner of which was genuinely surprising, which made Conteh one of the tournie favourites. Hand healed, fully deployed in vicious displays of public sparring, Conteh is ready for the QF.
    UD 15 Zsolt Erdie
    UD15 Joey Maxim

    MAXIE ROSENBLOOM (207-39-26)
    Max Rosenbloom has had the tougher draw of the two men but he made almost as light of Billy Miske in his first round match, winning without leaving second gear and snoozing his way through the final third of a fight he had in the bag by the tenth. Miske was outclassed across the board. Rosenbloom ran into a stiffer test in the second round, however, in shape of youngster Michael Moorer. Maxie was in trouble after shipping a hellacious right hand to the body in the second and very much needed his championship-head on to take control back in a fight that seemed in the balance through eight. Aided by a serious Moorer fade, Rosenbloom demonstrated his tournament credentials in what ended as a comfortable decision win.
    UD15 Billy Miske
    UD15 Michael Moorer

    The winner here is likely going to be the tournament favour in what will also be the match of the round for boxing purists.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    This is where having Rosenbloom in the tourney starts to confuse. Because he's now in with an opponent who's too good to visualise being out-classed. Normally, when it comes to fighters with no footage, I tend to let their records and accomplishments speak for them. But now he's in with somebody who looks so tremendous on film, that it's hard to think that'll be the case. Conteh was a delightful boxer with as cultured and advanced a left as seen in light-heavyweight history. His right was particularly nasty when he had it in his arsenal, too. He's a hard conundrum for any non-puncher. However, what it does come down to, truly IMO, is that Johm Conteh never beat a champion. I don't think he's gonna start with Maxie Rosenbloom.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Prime Conteh for me was one of the guys I would mention when novice boxers would ask me for different guys to YouTube. He was so text book in an Arguello sort of way just more basic. He through his punches with beautiful technique and moved well. I'm going with JC here by a UD
     
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  6. AwardedSteak863

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    Conteh wins this one. Maxie is still concused from the beating Moorer gave him in the previous fight. To bad Moorer got DQ for not being the trendy old school guy that No one has ever really seen fight.
     
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  7. McGrain

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    Tbh, Moorer never really landed anything heavy upstairs, at all. He did dig a couple of good bodyshots, but both guys all healed up. Thank heavens!
     
  8. McGrain

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    It's far from over! Conteh has dominated the first four rounds is all...
     
  9. ecto55

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    I don't see a lack footage advantaging Rosenbloom here at all....Conteh's obviously benefiting from the ESB's 'cult of familiarity' again with the 6-0 polling.

    People rave about boxing's untouchables like Locche, but forget how savvy Rosenbloom was. He was described as unhittable long before Pep....read the quotes about him.

    I can see him being shaded on work-rate by a fitter, taller, rangier opponent (like Conteh) but if he got in rhythm of hitting and not being hit in return....he could win easily.

    That said, I can't push Rosenbloom's case more than that because I'm only going off texts and write ups.

    Rosenbloom on points.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    John Conteh so dominated Maxie Rosenbloom with his left that he kept his right - injured in the second round - sheathed for the most part, cracking three straight right off Maxie's head in the first and unloading again with the punch in the 11th and 12th when Rosenbloom made a desperate, surging effort to swarm Conteh out of position. Conteh was not for moving, however, finding Rosenloom with an unerring jab that left Maxie bereft of plan or move.

    The judges all saw it wide for the Englishman who coasted through the 14th and 15th as peace broke out in a fight that by then resembled a spar, but for the cuts Rosenbloom suffered over both eyes.
     
  12. louis54

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    You've got to kidding me......macenroe
    Rosenbloom by decision