The best puncher of Light-Welterweight

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  1. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    I try to make a list of this weight class (as someone did about Bantamweight) , which produced several decent knockout-kings:

    1. Randall Bailey
    2. Aaron Pryor
    3. Ricardo Torres
    4. Rene Marcos Maidana
    5. Julio Cesar Chavez
    6. Kostay Tszyu
    7. Juan Urango
    8. Mahmmed Abdulajew
    9. Lucas Dario Matthyse
    10. Alfonso Fraser

    Mentioned can be Terence Crawford, Miguel Angel Cotto, Ricky Hatton, Carlos Hernandez, Vince Phillips and maybe Manny Pacquaio.
     
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  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Paul Fuji
     
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    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Carlos Hernandez would be my #1, followed by such natural punchers as Battling Torres and Jan Bergmann
     
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    No Cervantes? Or Judah?
     
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    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When talk is made of, in an ideal world, reducing the number of weight divisions...I scream "not junior-welter...over my dead body!!!" I like jr welter better than welter BTW...it was the home of my boxing idol Nicolino Locche...it probably still has panther tracks from the feared Mantequilla...that he left on his way to 147.
    Punchers? Well, there was the 140 lb, Japanese version of Pipino Cuevas...that wrecking ball fisted destroyer Paul Fuji...the precision bomber Carlos Hernandez...the deadly accurate Antonio Kid Pambele Cervantes....these three immediately came to mind.
     
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    Of course not.. or Fuji either, he only has Carlos Hernandez-a-jew as an "honorable mention",..but I'm glad he included the "deadly" Peppermint Frazier .
     
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    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't know that Ricky Hatton hit harder than Paul Fuji:nut:
     
  9. Xplosive

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    Hatton hits cocaine a lot harder than Fuji.
     
  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    Cervantes has only 44 knockouts of 91 wins, so narrowly just every second came by it (less than half of it), so then we could name La Motta as big puncher in Middleweight as well, as their records are comparable. But I was first thinking of him, even in the top 5 (above Chavez and Maidana), before I checked it.

    Judah was rather just fast (like Witter and Khan too). Which elite boxer had he ever stopped, aside of Spinks (the second time) in a different division? Though the Mabuza liver-punch knockout was nice (when he was on the way to lose).

    Bergman had a very weak competition, he was not that successful against the better ones (don't know a knockout over a notable opponent by him). Then I would rather mention Kelson Pinto, who might be comparable with this Fuji-guy too.
    Or Rene Arredondo and maybe Mickey Ward.
     
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  11. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    Oh nice to get corrected in such candy way; out of curiosity at which place did I have Ricky Hatton again (as I can't remember) here?:confused:
     
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    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL. What a dull argument against Cervantes. Makes it very apparent you probably just BoxRec'd him and never actually saw him fight.

    Kid Pambele's right cross was EASILY one of the most powerful punches in the history of 140.

    You have the audacity to rank a bunch of club fighters like Ricardo Torres and Juan Urango over him.
     
  13. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    So then have to be Jake La Motta one of your best punchers in Middleweight too.

    Maybe you doesn't get the concept of a puncher list: This is not about the overall abilities, but just the quality to hit hard. Torres had almost Cotto out, as a late replacement (had 10 days to prepare) and was world champion too. Also vs. Holt was it very impressive, in Corrales style.
    Urango was narrowly double-champion and was one of the strongest body-punchers, as he showed against Ngoudjo and Bailey among others.
    Club fighters this Fuji and Battling Torres guys, as they didn't fight the quality of opponent as these two did.
     
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    Ohhh, Torres hurt Cotto???? Wowwwww!

    Chop Chop Corley hurt Cotto worse than Torres did... let's bump Chop Chop to #1.
     
  15. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    Torres had him many time out of his feet, more than vice versa perhaps, that he had to receive standing eight counts. Also has he nearly a perfect knouts-rate and these battle with Holt were really entertaining, like Corrales vs. Castillo or Maidana vs. Ortiz (but in the second all in one minute). What is the best achievement of Paul Fuji (which is better than all what Torres and Urango accomlished)?
     


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