The best street fighter 1pick

Sullivan was a killer .. Dempsey essentially was the definition of one ..

The toughest of all in any sport was supposedly Meng, former professional wrestler who terrorfied everyone.

 

Larry Holmes...

****ed off at all times, great boxer, great heart, high school wrestling champ.

 

Lots of ways of taking a guy down :hey

A boxer would have to avoid the clinch at all costs, for example.

 

Dempsey said that Chuck Wiggins was the best street fighter ever, if you read about him, probably was right
The old timers where really tough guys
Jeffries
Dempsey
Greb
Ketchel
Johnson
Wiggins
I also read that Jeff Fenech was a brutal street fighter

 

Balrog

 

Larry Holmes would kick the everloving sh*t out of everyone on that list with perhaps the exception of Johnson.

 

Heavyweights..Dempsey has all that. Incredible experience..along with power..guts..hard fists..speed...and coordination
Then Jeffries
Pound for pound I'm going with the great mickey walker

 

Having trained for many years in MMA and sparred with both UFC fighters and more than a few high level amature boxers. There are things in MMA that a boxer has no answers for. The low single leg, chaining takedowns or front kicks. A boxer only has one specific range where he would be dominant but MMA fighters are better anywhere else. Also if we're talking no gloves, hands breaks are far more likely. Using bigger thicker bones for striking like knees shins and elbows are MUCH less likely to be damaged and are safer options. You are picking a one trick pony over a more well rounded skill set and that is well, It's Re!arded

 

I thought Larry Holmes said he dropped out of school when he was 12 or 13, didn't get as far as "high school".
But I'm not familiar with the US education system. Or what it takes to be high school wrestling champ.

 

Foreman and tyson were both known ass whoopers.

as was duran. Sullivan is a no brainer.

The real answer is jack johnson.

 

Paulie Malignaggi

 

More or less what I think.

Now if you pick a boxer that's a dominant boxer with experience in some sort of grappling (Seamus mentioned Holmes wrestled) then it's a different kettle of fish entirely.

 

I wouldn't underestimate the low kick. A boxer's stance is generally foot-forward, which is a great target for a leg kick. There's a reason that MMA fighters tend to keep their feet apart and more horizontal than a boxer, and the takedown is only part of it.

The leg kick doesn't even have to be particularly hard ... a sharp tap could be enough to break a fighter's rythmn and keep them from getting off properly. A muay thai specialist like Shogun Rua can mangle an opponent with a foot forward style, and I'm thinking of Machida here, who is an excellent striker himself.

That said, I agree with you that a Tyson or Tua with really thick legs, big strength, and a lower centre of gravity would be a daunting proposition even for a guy who knows what he is doing.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhkoqvXMd9k

No man living or dead could walk through that. It is thrown from a range beyond where any a boxer could reach and comes up straight from the blind angle with no telegraph.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtLwU16-3s

Again nobody is going to take that strike and walk through it. A boxer has no answer for it. Too far away to counter and even attempting a counter would just add more damage. It also serves to put the boxer on his back foot and out of the range where he'd work most effectively.

This is just striking and there are so many more facets where a boxer would just be lost. Even the clinch boxers are taught to grab in a way that is purely to stop strikes, but in doing so they expose themselves to the takedown. It is a tendancy that would have to be unlearned and quickly because they stand absolutely no chance on the ground.

This is stuff proven by the very early MMA events when it was more of a style vs style thing because nobody was cross training. Boxers won absolutely none of them. They all got choked out or beat down. History is on my side here.

Yes, I fully agree that guys like Tua or Tyson make a tough night for anybody they are elite fighters with elite timing, understanding of distance and rithym and are elite athletes. But they would be asked questions they never had to answer before. How does Tyson with his tiny reach counter low kicks from a guy who is four feet away from him? What happens when a fighter throws head kicks to stop his head movement? What happens when he gets tied up on the inside, because he didn't ever really work out of clinches to punch and the ref isn't going to break you up.

As far as the smaller gloves making it easier to land punches I would counter with the fact that those little gloves don't really absorb any shock either. A lot of boxers would have to adjust the way they defended because one tiny glove is going to even effect the flight path of a kick.

 

Wow, I never heard he had a wrestling background, that would have made him hard to handle if things went to the ground.