The best technique between Louis, Lewis, Wlad and Vitaly?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bokaj, May 10, 2017.


Who had the best technique?

  1. Louis

    27 vote(s)
    81.8%
  2. Lewis

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  3. Vitaly

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    0.0%
  4. Wlad

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    But a guard has disadvantages too.
    There is always an opening.
    And staying in a guard could force you to see less, and do worse at anticipating attacks. Punches are a lot more predictable out of a guard too.

    When Wlad is waving his arms in your face, or moving his hands all over the place it's really hard to anticipate the direction of the attack.

    Fighters who are more guard oriented could come out of the same gym as someone who barely uses a passive guard. It goes to show how stylistic it is, rather than how correct it is.
     
  2. dinovelvet

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    lol .. Nobody is going to buy into your Hogworths that Wlad had a high guard and used traditional defensive methods of slipping and parrying to evade punches. Stop making a fool out of yourself.

    Wach and Leapi were the only guys he didn't clinch to death and they wouldn't be good enough to be considered viable opponents for a guy like Deontay Wilder

    I could be here all day running through it , so ill just give you one example of why his defence wasn't up to scratch.

    When he fought Jennings in America his illegal holding wasn't tolerated and it resulted in him getting a point deducted. When he realised he couldn't hold any more he resorted to running away. Against a routine ordinary challenger any so called 'ATG' would breeze past like a Sunday stroll through the park way.

    Fact his he made a dogs dinner out of the majority of his performances during his championship run.

    If you got proof to the contrary , by all means go ahead and show me.
     
  3. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Byrd does employ the parry several times in those clips...I'll make a gif. lol
     
  4. dinovelvet

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    Doza , you have have Chaggy as well. But thats only cos the guy fought like a moron trying to out box Wlad from far out which basically handed Wlad the victory up on a platter.
     
  5. The Kentucky Cobra

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    [url]https://gifs.com/gif/wladimir-klitschko-vs-chris-byrd-i-highlights-Z4MzkJ[/url]

    So...will Bokaj admit to being wrong, or will we get an absurd explanation as to how that isn't a parry? Or better yet, he gave his observation and will just request to move on.
     
  6. Bokaj

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    No, that is using his right jab to occupy Vitaly's left jab. It's an offensive, not defensive, maneuver and quite textbook for a lefty facing a righty and the other way around.
     
  7. reznick

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    Byrd was a parry master.
    That's why the palms of his hands are often facing the opponent with both arms out.
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    That's a parry my friend.
     
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  9. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    post #65 address it. And it's Wlad in that video. You picked a fight where Byrd was completely outclassed and still examples of text book parry.
     
  10. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Utilizing his glove to catch and misdirect his opponent's punches is a parry. And beyond that, there are text book examples in that highlight of him knocking Wlad's punches down.
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jesus. So that's it? You find a second where he actually proves my point? He moves his guard down in what you could call a sort of a parry, but fails to defend the right to the stomach and leaves his chin exposed at the same time. Had Vitaly feinted him and went for the chin that could have been a KO. But of course he will make the odd mistake.

    That's why those GIF-discussions are useless. You will ALWAYS fins an exception or two. But look at those minutes and say you don't agree that he keeps his guard up for the majority of the time.
     
  12. reznick

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    Here Byrd used an outside parry for the body jab, and parrys the smoke screen paw jabs.
    [url]https://streamable.com/4x500[/url]
     
  13. Bokaj

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    No it isn't a parry. It's offensive.

    And this is turning into pathetic nitpicking. You see that these guys keeps there hands up to protect vital areas.

    It's right there. They look quite different from what I have criticized in Fitz, Corbett, Ali and Foreman etc. and it's just silly to pretend anything different.
     
  14. reznick

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    Maybe post a clip showing that?
     
  15. Bokaj

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    Do you deny that Byrd uses a high guard to block punches a majority of the time?

    And if you'd asked if it's textbook for a southpaw to occupy an opponents left jab with his right hand I'd said it's perfectly textbook. You can do it with a left jab against a left jab as well, but it's a bit more risky and you have to be tactically aware.