The best weight-jumper (after Langford)

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  1. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    What fighter throughout history was the best at moving through divisions?

    Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Bob Fitzsimmons, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Charley Burley, Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcott, Manny Pacquiao, Billy Conn, Roy Jones, Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather, etc.

    Who had the most success and remained at the highest level division after division?
     
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  2. Sweet Pea

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    Langford. Beating ATG's from LW to HW is about as impressive as it gets.
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Lets look at it.

    He beat Joe Gans at lightweight.

    He beat Harry Wills at heavyweight.

    He beat everything in between.
     
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  4. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    How the **** did I forget Langford?

    Well, that pretty much ends the thread. I guess I didn't think about him because every one else has at least somewhat similar accomplishments. Maybe it was just too obvious for me to consider him.
     
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  5. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'll do this.

    Excluding the obvious answer, who was the best at moving through divisions? Langford is so clearly the correct choice that it's unfair to compare the others. So, not considering Langford because he is the obvious choice, who was the best weight-jumper?
     
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  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Langford.
     
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  7. bum of the week

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    Langford of course is an obvious choice, but how about an other canuck: Jimmy McLarnin.
    While growing from flyweight to welter he beat 2 flyweight champions, 1 bantam champ, 2 feather champs, 6 lightweight champs and 4 welter champs, if not always at those weights and sometimes with a considerable weight advantage.
    Still impressive though especially considering that the lightweight /jr welter division where he fought during his peak was one of the most talentladen ever.
     
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  8. the cobra

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    McLarnin is an excellent choice when taking Langford out of consideration.

    I'd personally give it to Duran or Armstrong, but Jimmy is certainly up there.
     
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  9. Russell

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    Fenech deserves a mention at least.
     
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  10. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another guy--while not as good as the others mentioned--was Jimmy Ellis. The guy gets zero respect and started as a middle. And had Dundee in the corner. I think if he stayed light, Foster would've had his hands full with the guy. If Ellis could've stayed at middle, I think the reign of Benvenuti & possibly Monzon may have been changed.
     
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  11. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wow,

    the guy at heavyweight beat a prime jerry quarry,

    i guess ellis could be noted as the roy jones before roy jones due to his start at middle and campaigning up to heavyweight.

    i would like to bring up dingaan thobela,

    a fighter that started at featherweight, went on to win two world titles at lightweight and moved up all the way up to supermiddle weight where he beat glen catley for the wbc super middleweight title.
     
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  12. TommyV

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    Langford. Honorary mention to Barbados Joe.
     
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  13. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Ellis had some crazy competition in his career. Fom middle to heavy, he was in the ring with Holley Mims, Henry Hank, Rubin Carter, Don Fullmer, George Benton, Oscar Bonevena, Jerry Quarry, Floyd Patterson, George Chuvalo, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, Joe Bugner, and of course Ali and Frazier. A good call, I forgot about Ellis.
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Sam Langford is the best at moving through the weights and getting great wins.

    Is this a new way of saying "Sam Langford, all time pound for pound #1", or are you guys just working up to it?
     
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  15. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I decided to change the thread to "the best weight-jumper excluding Sam Langford." Langford is the obvious answer, so this is now basically a "who is 2nd best" thread.
     
    the cobra, Sep 21, 2008
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