The Beterbinator vs Ward if Andre Would Have Stuck Around To Fight The Very Best

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CooperKupp, Jan 13, 2024.


Who Wins This?

  1. The Beterbinator

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  2. Son Of Gifts

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  1. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BTR is stronger, can fight on the inside and also dirty with his rabbit punches. He would be a 70/30 favorite for me. Oh, and I remember Ward doing stanky leg after Kovalev's jab, so he doesnt have ATG chin.
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He plods forward and his opposition has been nothing special. Just ok. Never fought a slick fighter.
     
  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kovalev beat Ward in their 1st fight and Beterbiev is far better than Kovalev
     
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Prime Kovalev was great. He did beat Ward imo. But his style is totally different from Beterbiev. He's much more refined.
     
  6. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev is a well known powerhouse but his IQ and skill set never gets the credit it deserves,he is a master of manipulating opponents and getting them to do what he wants as well as forcing them into positions which favours him to unload his short power shots and combinations,even taking shots to allow him to land his own. Beterbiev is all wrong for Ward .
     
  7. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward by robbery or low blow.
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I happen to remember a mauling inside fighter Sakio bika giving ward a difficult fight. Beterbiev can do similar things with greater power

    I think wards tough enough to hear the bell
     
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  9. Mike_Jones

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    Imagine Andre Ward without his home advantages & billy goat wrestling tactics ... if he actually traveled & refs pulled him up on his BS.. he'd probably have multiple disqualifications... what a joke he was.. I mean imagine being pedded to fk yet still having to drain a China chinned Chad Dawson .. or having to head butt a 1D Mikkel Kessler who'd already been schooled by a 35 year old brittle boned Calzaghe... The dude was such a fkin fraud.. Cant stand him or his style of fighting. Was a privileged American who got away with murder. AB walks through him.. Calzaghe would have worked him too.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He unquestionably would have but it wouldn't have helped him as there isn't an alternate reality or dimension where he can ever beat Beterbiev. It's a terrible stylistic match up for him.

    He wouldn't ever fight Beterbiev as it is but let's make it more interesting.

    Would he fight Beterbiev in Canada or Russia?

    With a Canadian or Russian ref?

    With three Canadian or Russian judges?

    Every single person on here knows damn well he would never concede to doing any of that
     
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  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Ward is 39

    Berb is 38

    Ward should come back and get chinned
     
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  12. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This same message board thinks Wlad would beat Ali in a poll.

    a defensive black fighter historically does bad in all these polls.
     
  13. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Neither Ali or Ward were defensive fighters. Pernell Whitaker was a defensive fighter and he’s always regarded as one of the GOATs on this board.
    Wlad is always regarded by most on this board as scared, cheating, chinless guy who was only able to dominate a weak division by hugging and leaning on much smaller men. Try again.
     
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  14. Mike_Jones

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    Ward didn't fight black.. he fought WWE.. take the chip of your shoulder ..
     
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  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I mean Beterbiev picks his shots pretty masterfully. It is important to acknowledge what you said about his competition too because his masterful pressure/stalker approach has only been applied to lesser opponents. The collection of stoppages versus Gvodzyk (undefeated), Callum Smith (never stopped before), Browne (never stopped before), Joe Smith, Kalajdzic (never stopped before), and Yarde...that's a pretty decent list if I'm being honest. Should Beter beat and stop Bivol it would be a feat considering Beter is freaking 39 yrs old.

    I dont know how Beter stacks up all time at LHW. Cause RJJ used PEDs and his tests were ADVERSE not ATYPICAL. So Idk how good Roy truly was
     
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