The Beterbinator vs Ward if Andre Would Have Stuck Around To Fight The Very Best

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CooperKupp, Jan 13, 2024.


Who Wins This?

  1. The Beterbinator

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  2. Son Of Gifts

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  1. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm just telling facts. Do the experiment yourself. Wait a week, and post James Toney vs GGG

    you'll get the same results. WLad was voted better than ali by a massive stretch. You see it in the classic forum all the time.
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ward points
     
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  3. Mike_Jones

    Mike_Jones New Member banned Full Member

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    Ward was favoured with great privilege throughout his entire career, just like a multitude of Americans currently are .. so quit the woe is me **** , sell it somewhere else
     
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  4. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in this board or in the media?

    Im not talking about irl , im only stating this board always has a bias.
     
    outtieDrake, Jan 14, 2024
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  5. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Yeah ward definitely would NOT have agreed to all those terms but he sure as hell liked demanding them in the vast majority of his fights didn’t he?! Lol! Come to think of it… andre never ever fought a championship fight outside the US did he???

    Meh… not everyone is cut like Usyk and Beterbiev. :cool1:
     
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  6. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    Ol' Beterby gives Ward a serious wallowing.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I've said before, he wanted everyone to play by a set of rules he would never play by once and he had home advantage against every world class opponent he fought, be it hometown, home city or home country.

    No never

    Usyk does religiously at the drop of a hat what Dre wouldn't ever dare do once
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah sure, Gvozdyk was nothing special, go away troll. Beterbiev has faught them almost all.
     
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  9. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward warned Canelo to stay away for Beterbiev AND Bivol - he knew what was up - a cash out fight, and I think Ward was speaking from his experience knowing even a faded Kovalev was a hard hard fight - and he got away with an egregious robbery in the first. Ward would have more chance vs Bivol, but Beterbiev is a stystic nightmare match up for him, all wrong
     
    gollumsluvslave, Jan 14, 2024
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  10. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Well, if you’re a troll then you’re a good one - I fell for your bait and searched the Classic forum for Wlad vs Ali and Golovkin vs Toney.
    90% picked Ali over WK
    73% for Toney, 21% for GGG
    Try again
     
    Jackstraw, Jan 14, 2024
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  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It speaks volumes that 33 year old Ward wasn't confident in beating a far less experienced (never past the 7th round, no challenging fights) 32 year old Beterbiev despite having three American judges and an American referee behind him. No one can have genuine confidence in Ward beating prime Beterbiev based on that fact alone, before we even get into the stylistic matchup.

    Kovalev said that Usyk was too big for him and Ward knew the same, yet Beterbiev competed on even terms with Usyk as an amateur and beat Kovalev twice while being 20 months younger, which further suggests that he's better than his LHW contemporaries.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It does. In his own country with a full set of home officials

    Andre Ward

    “I’m not a guy that normally leans towards a puncher,” said Ward. “I’m a guy that wants a fighter to have multiple things he can fall back on in case that punch doesn’t bail him out. But Beterbiev is a little bit different. I’ve called his fights, watched him, and studied him. He’s different.

    “He throws his body into every punch. He’s physically a hard man and he’s strong. He hits extremely hard, and he doesn’t even have to hit you clean. He can graze you, and you can have problems. But he’s also an underrated boxer.

    “He has over 300 amateur fights and he comes up from the Soviet system. He’s a lot better skilfully than people give him credit for him and he’s going to be a hard guy to beat.”

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    He's taken shots at Clenelo for avoiding the smoke with Beterbiev but Beterbiev ran Ward out of his own division into retirement :lol:

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    Serge, Jan 14, 2024
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