The betting odds on Ortiz are unreal

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by f1ght3rz, Feb 26, 2018.


  1. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    That's why I wanted Zelenoff-Ortiz before this fight. So we could get a good gauge on both fighters.

    It took Wilder three rounds to tko Zelenoff, only One to KO Scott, Scott went full twelve with Ortiz. If Ortiz managed to KO Zelenoff (something Wilder couldn't do) I'd bet on Ortiz
     
  2. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Uncle Al throw in an extra 300k to honeypot Ortiz
     
  3. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I've got money on an Ortiz KO and a Wilder KO 1-3, in case we have another Scott situation
     
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  4. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The bookies do know things, the bets coming will have an effect on the odds but trust me the bookies do some research too. They don't just go in there blind.
     
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  5. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    They have to do some research because they have to publish odds. You can not bet on something if there are no starting odds to bet on. After that of course they react to the market and the money that is coming in.

    Like Rungvisai last weekend. He was the slight fav after odds were published, then the market dropped Estrada and Estrada went into the fight as the fav while Rungvisai was something ~2.3-2.4 to win the fight.
     
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  6. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder should win with his youth but Ortiz has the best victory (Jennings).

    When two big punchers fight it could go to decision that's what worries me here. I hope this fight doesn't go the distance though
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    If Ortiz goes out with a fishy like stoppage, you'd better believe there is a high chance for a fix.
     
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  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    The bookies over here had Eubank Jr an odds on favourite last weekend, they do get it wrong.
     
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  9. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i don't think so, ortiz isn't one to lay down, he's a serious person. he has to fight for his wife and kids.

    and its going to end up just like broner vs. maidana and the crowd will go nuts, and wilder will barely be able to get up and have steady legs exactly like what broner experienced walking back to a corner, except ortiz will finish him up right there.
     
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  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I'm thinking of dropping a grand on Ortiz. 3's is too good a price.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course they go in there blindly. They don't take a directional risk but they collect a riskless spread as their profit.
     
  12. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So that means every fight when the odds are released starts out evens? Don’t be silly they know who the favourites are just off basic research and they make adjustments accordingly.
     
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  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know there’s plenty who think Ortiz is gonna KO wilder or it’s gonna be tear up but I have a feeling Ortiz is gonna be wary of Wilders power to the point where he could look timid.
     
  14. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz doesn’t like to lead so Wilder is better off starting by jabbing and moving off the back foot and having Ortiz chase him. After 4-6 rounds of frustrating him step on the gas when Ortiz starts to fade.
     
  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If this were two years ago when Ortiz was a little a younger and a lot more active I would agree that it would be a 50/50 fight. However, taking into account Ortiz's inactivity all through 2017 and Ortiz being very vulnerable to straight right hands as well as struggling with speed, so I can understand the lopsided odds.

    Also, Ortiz's lack of activity is going to effect him badly if it goes into the later rounds. Malik Scott, who tried his best to be counted out early was forced to fight by the ref and when he did actually start fighting back was landing counter rights way too often on Ortiz.