The Biggest Coward in boxing Today Award goes to ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by sid, Jan 8, 2020.


  1. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sid, I get where Whyte is coming from and no doubt his frustration has lead him to using the language he has but that doesn't mean we should start a whole bandwagon. Just look at some of the posts on this thread. I'm not blaming you for the words of others but when you've got some anonymous tough guy calling Gennady Golovkin a coward ? To be honest seeing some of these quotes has been like lifting a flat stone ! Those of us who have been close enough to experience how truly brave you have to be to be the next Kris Laight or Kev MacCauley should never use the word coward. I hope you can recognize that.
     
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  2. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know what you mean things get taken out context I started this on what Whyte said on Sky Sports News.
    I don't think GGG a coward either but the best must face the best this is why we love boxing.
    From a media point of view I don't mind another boxer calling out another boxer with the words coward.
    Going back just take Ali & what he said it's part of the game & great for build up to a fight.
     
  3. Shempz

    Shempz Active Member Full Member

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    ....except for Audley Harrison!
     
  4. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Wilder is fighting someone better than Whyte next. He is giving a rematch to the guy who near everyone thought beat him, right after rematching the guy who almost KO'd him. That isn't a coward's move. He was protected by his handlers on the way up the ranks because he sucked and really they did the right thing. Whyte was only mandatory after the Rivas fight, so this idea Wilder has been running terrified of this ordered fight is pure myth.
     
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  5. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suppose it's OK for Whyte to use that angle although I find all the trash talk tiresome. He can't get a fight with Wilder or Fury until next year while they mess about so by and large it's tomorrow's chip paper.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Better opponent doesnt mean a more dangerous opponent... hence Wilder is avoiding the danger.

    Fury cant fight back like Whyte does, hence Wilder aint bothered at all. He spars little girl scouts as conditioning for Fury's punch power.
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah I mean Whyte has totally earned a shot, several times over, but the real reason Wilder wont fight Whyte is because they all know Whyte is a dangerous guy... a lot of people are weary of Whyte now after all he has proved... back when Whyte was climbing up the ranks people underestimated Whyte thinking ill walk over him.

    Chisora, Parker, Browne, Lewison, Parker... and then they were thoroughly bamboozled by what was hitting them in the ring... as Whyte proved them and their training teams wrong in thinking Whyte was easy work.

    Whyte brings the type of pain and punishment you would rather avoid. And Wilder is avoiding it... and going for Fury because Fury hits like a woman relatively speaking.

    Just because he is a better fighter doesn't mean Fury is a more dangerous fighter.. just means you can take your time trying to KO him while Fury tries to win on points.
     
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  8. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Fury and Whyte have the same KO percentage...

    I see your point and you're quite right, however if Wilder loses his belt he is going to have a very hard time getting fights IMO. Who is going to want to fight him for no belt? Way, way too dangerous a fight without a world title at stake. So from that perspective, it's a very dangerous fight, I think.
     
  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Wilder is the biggest coward for ducking legitimate threats.

    But people wanna cry "He fought Fury!" yeah so? Fury ain't a dangerous fighter... he is a good one..... there is a difference when you think about it using your brain.
     
  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Second biggest coward after Wilder at HW, is Eric Molina.. yeah he steps up... but once in the ring he then looks for a way out immediately... give me a break.
     
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  11. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Could we perhaps collective nominate all the fighters who use PEDs are the biggest cowards in the sport?
     
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  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    lol erm, you just flipped the whole topic on its head. The topic was who was the biggest coward, we said Wilder because he is fighting Fury who isnt a threat. Of course Wilder is a threat... but thats not the question. And you're jumping around with hypotheticals at this stage we dont know who will win Fury-Wilder.

    But Wilder has had plenty of chances to fight Whyte, and Whyte has done more than any human in history could have done as a WBC Contender in earning a shot.

    And again, KO Percentage means very litttle out of context... the context being.. "well who the hell have you fought?"

    I'm pretty sure the entire world would agree Whyte hits hard than Fury, including boxing analysts, and boxers themselves.

    I could argue that Whyte hits hard than Wilder when Whyte lands properly given who he has KOd and how long they stayed down for.

    Wilder ain't knocked anyone out with a proven chin like Chisora's.

    Anyways, Wilder is ducking Whyte is my point here... but Whyte is Interim Champion...he deserves his shot before 2021.
     
  13. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    The easiest bite I'll get all year!

    Of course Whyte hits harder than Fury and I'm happy for him to have his shot this year. I sitll do not however buy into the idea anyone is avoiding him at all though, that's where we differ.
     
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  14. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yes we do differ, and I'd like to think I base my opinions on my observations of other peoples actions.

    Whyte vs Chisora was a slugfest, evenly matched in 2016. Both dangerous, both KO power, and one extremely motivated Chisora.

    Whyte answered the calls of the fans, the public and Chisora for a rematch at a point when he really, really didnt need to do it. But he took it.

    Coward level = -1

    Whyte then took a fight with Parker (younger, prime, fresh, strong, HIGHLY decorated) after having earned a high ranking across the board, a fight with no reward against a former champ who just only recently lost to AJ.

    Coward level = -2

    Whyte then also took on a very dangerous fighter called Rivas, where a few notable boxing analysts had Whyte losing. Rivas a decorated amateur, and very physically strong/capable fighter in his prime. NO reward whatsoever.

    Coward level = -3

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    Now Wilder has had 750 days to agree a fight against Whyte who has called him out no less than 72 times publically.

    Why should Wilder fight Whyte? Here's why:

    1. Whyte beat the most top contenders in the WBC than any other WBC contender as of late
    2. Whyte is the #1 contender for 750 days
    3. Whyte offered Wilder 12 Million dollars, 6 times more than Wilder has ever made prior.
    4. Whyte is not the Interim WBC Champion, which required a unification with the actual champ.

    Now given the above list of incentives, Wilder ignored Whyte and also sent Whyte a message saying even if he was made mandatory he would make Whyte wait two years.

    Wilder coward level = -750
     
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  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    On a serious note the biggest coward in boxing his Eddie Hearn. When his voice went all high because Chisora had enough of being threatened by Team Whyte was cowardice of Scooby and Shaggy proportions.
     
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