the biggest leaps in mma evolution???

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  1. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    what are the milestones of mma in your eyes??

    for me the events that stand out are as follows:

    Royce gracie wins UFC 1 -
    royce shocks the world and debunks thousands of years of martial art myths. the ground game is born and displayed to the masses..

    ken shamrock vs royce gracie 2 -
    ken shamrock neutralises the guard and wears down the seemingly invincible submission master earning a draw. ground and pound is born.

    rounds and weight classes are introduced. the sport of mma is legitamised (possibly the most important event in the history of mma)

    mark coleman dominates -
    gives wrestling firm footing in the pecking order of mma styles

    vitor belfort -
    vitors dominace gives people a glimpse at the first stirrings of what a true "mixed" martial artist should resemble..

    tito ortiz vs ken shamrock 1 -
    fighters are now well rounded athletes. tito dominates with a complete arsenal of tools in the battle of the old school vs the new school

    matt hughes vs royce gracie -
    possibly the last sight of the stylistic specialist. royce has no answers in a fight that shockingly showcases how far mma has evolved.

    the rise of fedor, gsp, silva and machida -
    the elite fighters are now the elite in all disciplines, striking, submissions and wrestling are now intertwined to the point where fighters seemingly have no weaknesses. On top of that they are now superbly conditioned athletes with fitness levels that rival any in sport.
     
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  2. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    UFC 1

    Ultimate Ultimate 95

    Pride 1

    Tito Ortiz V Frank Shamrock, changed the attitude of the fight promotions.

    W Silva's streak

    Fedor is a evolution in the sport
     
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  3. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By Dream 1 do you mean Pride 1?
     
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  4. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes :patsch

     
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  5. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Get the ****ing Machida of the list.

    Talk about overrated. The guy hardly beat any elite, he's not a champion and is already mentioned next to names who ruled the division for 5 years, someone who cleared the division via KTFO, and just an incredible athlete.

    The more people overrate him the more I want him to get KOed by Rashad.
     
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  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Silva and Machida. For showing elite boxer skill level (relatively) both offensively and defensively. Clean, Precise, Efficient, Focused fighting styles.

    In other words theyre the kind of fighters who when people who criticize the UFC (MMA) for their sloppiness see, will get a "Hey, this thing is good" They put the sweet science in MMA.

    Before them, I believe Frank Shamrock was the last to evolve the sport
     
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  7. martin0792

    martin0792 The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Rampage knocking out Chuck Liddel and taking over.
     
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  8. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  9. notrighthere

    notrighthere New Member Full Member

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    Royce/Hughes was a gimmick to sell PPVs, I won't call that an evolution.
     
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  10. brandon9624

    brandon9624 Member Full Member

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    I think when guys like Rampage, Rashad and Jardine beat Liddell with boxing fundamentals, like the overhand right Jardine and Rashad clocked him with, the sport kind of evolved. You can have all the power in the world in your fists, but if you don't keep your hands up you'll get knocked out. Guys now have to step up their boxing game.
     
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  11. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Royce Gracie wins UFC 1, 2, and 4 showing that Gracie Brazilian jiujutsu can defeat a variety of larger successively stronger opponents. Each Royce victory is via submission or tap out. The martial arts world is introduced to Brazilian jiujutsu.

    Dan Severn wins UFC 5 and the first Ultimate Ultimate showing that wrestlers can dominate as well.

    After learning some jiujutsu from the Machado family, Ken Shamrock unveils the first ground and pound strategy in his rematch against Royce Gracie.

    Mark Coleman enters the UFC and dominates the division showing that large wrestlers can overpower, and "ground and pound" their opponents into submission.

    Former kickboxing world champion, Maurice Smith, TKO's Brazilian jiujutsu powerhouse and Extreme Fighting Heavyweight Champion, Conan Silviera, and then goes on to win a decision over UFC champion Mark Coleman to show that striking can be used effectively in MMA as long as one is versed in supplemental jiujutsu.

    Frank Shamrock debuts in the UFC with a shocking series of quick victories over credible opponents. Shamrock combined training in striking with world champion Maurice Smith with his experience in shootwrestling with his brother Ken and jujutsu from japanese grappler Tsuyoshi Kosaka (sp) with an iron man routine for conditioning marking himself as the prototypical modern mixed-martial artist.
     
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  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    He's the first fighter that is THE BEST at every aspect of the game in his weightclass.

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  13. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he isn't. Alves is a way better striker, there are a few. And I don't know how you can say he has the best JJ, he never rearlly uses it in an offensive way at all.
     
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  14. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The use of a cage.

    The various tinkering with the rules; if headbutts, knees on the ground and elbowa are all allowed, its a differnt sport.
     
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  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Got alot of time for GSP. But the hype is way overboard.:nono
     
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