The biggest problem with British boxing?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Beeston Brawler, May 22, 2009.


  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Is it one of the following........

    Soft matchmaking
    WBU title
    Commonwealth title
    Hometown/housefighter bias & dodgy refereeing
    Obsession with remaining undefeated

    Or another?

    Thoughts guys.....

    I'd say soft matchmaking is a big issue, which goes hand in hand with the Commonwealth title.
     
  2. fenian 67

    fenian 67 Active Member Full Member

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    soft matchmaking.kevin mitchells return tonight is a good example.also i think british promoters keep some fighters at domestic level too long.jamie moore being a prime example
     
  3. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    it allows guys who are never good enough to be world class to have some status and make a bit better money
     
  4. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing has become a business, and much less of a sport now.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I don't think fighters should be just entitled to make money though.....

    If you are content facing bums then fine, but you should be paid accordingly.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Your first three options are all one and the same in a way.

    I'm not entirely convinced the WBU is that big of a factor at the moment, it hasn't been since Hatton lauded it over Britain. So the Willie Limond's and Lee McAllister's fight for it, so what. If it makes them extra money good for them. As long as big prospects aren't wasting their time on this bauble and the crap opposition that comes with it I've no problem.

    Now, the commonwealth a.k.a. Afrobum, or African Title is a major problem to me. We see guys that are too good of a prospect to be wasting their time with this trash. Look at Clev and Broadhurst fighting these straight up bums, its a waste of time. The CW title is dangerous man. It used to mean something but not anymore, now I think its British title or nothing.

    Dodgy reffing from guys like Parris is the norm. We could definitely do with a new batch of young refs with a clue about the game to bring some freshness to it. I'm not a great fan of any of the British refs. We should get some young guys enrolled in courses, let them converse with the good American refs.
     
  7. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I agree with you over the refereeing certainly.

    Dave Parris is like the Graham Poll of boxing.... we could do with getting someone even like Cortez in for a while to act as a mentor for them.
     
  8. sugarrayhatton

    sugarrayhatton The Paddy Full Member

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    Refereeing, Undefeated Records, WBU and WBO belts. Frank Warren. Too much coverage too early ala Khan and Degale
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'd like to know what the appraisal system for British boxing refs is. It seems that no matter how many mistakes are made they are not asked to explain their actions. There is no accountability whatsoever and it breeds complacency. A lot of our refs are older guys that have been around forever, it needs some new blood IMO.

    I think they should make the whole thing a bit more professional. When Parris drops a bollock as he did in Rogan-Sexton he should be hauled up and asked to explain. They should be relegated to small hall fights as punishment. They should look a bit fitter, too. It can't be easy having to move around in a hot environment for potentially 36 minutes, and maintain concentration...if you have to be weighed on industrial scales.

    Freshen up your act BBBoC :deal
     
  10. Power

    Power Active Member Full Member

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    IMO not enough publicity to the public.... which would create more fighters because the public/kids will go to the gyms and want to naz, eubank etc.... which would make more domestic Rivalries as there's more established fighters.... which will make the fights better to watch and also make the fighters themselves better which will in turn make them better on the world scene.
     
  11. sugarrayhatton

    sugarrayhatton The Paddy Full Member

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    I also think Parris was at his work in Khan v Barrera, by not stopping it in round 1 or 2 when he saw the cut, it didn't get any worse, but Round 5 was the earliest that he could stop it to give khan the win.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Parris may have been confused in the Khan vs Barrera fight though.

    Under British rules it would have been a TKO loss, therefore he may have kept the action going to avoid that scenario.

    Or you could be cynical......

    :lol:
     
  13. sugarrayhatton

    sugarrayhatton The Paddy Full Member

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    Wouldn't it have been a no contest?
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Reff'ing mistakes are a huge deal. Some of these decisions directly affect the outcome of a fight. That is somebodies job you are ****ing with. If a guy loses he doesn't neccessarily get the same opportunities and paydays as he would if he wins. Refereeing is extremely important and the BBBoC seems to defend their guys no matter what. Very much a jobs for the lads scenario up at BBBoC headquarters.
     
  15. sugarrayhatton

    sugarrayhatton The Paddy Full Member

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