The Black Press Salutes Harry Greb in Death

No. You gotta be kidding. I can't believe they were able to sneak Dempsey in a thread without actually mentioning him. Just... Ack. What's next subliminal messages?

 

Interesting enough Allentown Joe Gans was outpointed by Leo johnson
and Eddie Dorsey, about the same time Benny Leonard flattened both Johnson and Dorsey in 1 and 2 rounds....Whatever it's worth...
But the fact that Harry Greb ,old and creaky was able to still dominate
the tough Allentown Joe Gans JUST before Greb retired,speaks so highly of
who a prime Harry Greb was...The more we learn about Harry Greb the more astounding he was...THIS WAS A MAN !

 

deal

 

How do you know there are not already subliminal messages placed in each thread? Thus is their nature.

Yes, Greb is the real man. His record is just astonishing, reads like Science Fiction. I wish Pollack or some other thorough researcher would do a book on the man.

 

Yet another piece of information telling how good Leo Johnson was. Did he really have to mess Leonard's hair?

You can't scare me. Subliminal messages wouldn't change anything at this point. The thread's get hijacked anyway.

 

Well repeating a prior post, according to all three Willks Barre newspapers
Gans held a prime Jack Delaney to a draw early in 1925. All three accounts read like the boys went at it like a couppla tigers. I don't suppose Gans had lost much by the following year and the same local paps describe quite a tail kicking dolled out to AJG by old blind Mister Greb.

Below is another indication of utmost respect from the African American community, this time by the onetime conquer of Max Scmelling Larry Gains.

http://books.google.com/books?id=KI...a=X&ei=SZIqUP-AGMiV6wGRyIH4BA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA

 

Yes S, I read this great book of the MWs by Walsh, several years ago...i loved his version of how vain harry Greb was about his looks...He would powder his face and slick his hair down the middle looking like Lord Faunterloy, but once the bell started Harry Greb became the most tigerish
boxer of all times, on the attack every moment of the fight...Larry Gaines, a top fighter in his own right thought the world of Mr. Greb...:good

 

1) He fought more than 3.

2) Perhaps that's all the black contenders there were in the middleweight division? Greb fought everybody, and that era was the most packed as far as different ethnicities all participating in the sport. It'd take awhile after Flowers for there to be another black middleweight champion (Gorilla Jones was the only claimant before SRR in '51), and there were other middleweight champs like Steele that didn't draw the color line. It really wouldn't be until the '40's that serious black middleweight contenders emerged that didn't get their chance at the crown.

The white/Irish/Polish/Italian/Jewish middleweights of the 20's and 30's generally get punished because historians today see them trading the title back and forth without many fights with black contenders and so it's assumed they drew the color line, but it's an unfair perception- there just weren't many out there in that division at that time. And the top guys like Gorilla Jones and Tiger Flowers did get chances (granted, Flowers got screwed against Walker in that title fight, but Mickey still gave him the chance).

Not saying things wouldn't be different if there weren't a color line, but to the extent that things would've changed in the middleweight division in that era, I don't think it'd have been much. :hey

 

You mean like Jack Johnson and Ray Robinson?

 

Amazon marketing I guess. Ask Messers JJ to send you pages directly from the Larry Gains book "Impossible Dream"

 

Walker didnt give Flowers a chance.

It was Flowers who was champion and gave Walker a chance. Flowers got robbed, Walker won the title and then ducked Flowers who died a year later.

 

You're right; my mistake. :good

 

Bump. Great thread.