The blue print to beat mayweather

HAHAHA. thats what I was thinking. Mayweather is underrated body puncher.

 

Shane cannot beat Floyd, is everyone forgetting how Shane got outboxed by cotto

 

one word

DURAN!!!

 

ITs really funny, You know how good someone is when you try to figure out the proper "blueprint" to beat them. People are reaching, its starting to look pretty pitiful.

 

I respect Shane a lot but beating and stopping Margarito does not make it Shane's best performance. Shane is a class act full stop the fact that he is an excellent bodypuncher like PBF and Mike McCallum does not mean he needs to be referred to as a Mexican. PBF is the better fighter of the 2 of them and will win. They could have fought when Floyd was Junior Lightweight champion and Mosley Lightweight champion but don't think the Mosley's were that keen on the matchup.

To even begin to compare Shane effort in stopping Margarito to thinking he can do PBF is a million miles of the mark. Shane will get owned in this match up similar to his defeats by Vernon Forrest, Cotto and Winky Wright.

 

mosley can beat mayweather now but it'd be incredibly hard to do & floyd would be the favourite.


if the fight had happened when mosley first wanted it in 99' or had happened anytime before 2005 mosley wins clearly.

 

There is no blueprint to beat mayweather. The first castillo fight showed us that you can compete with him when he has a rotator cuff injury. BUt if Castillo had established a blueprimnt, then why did he lose convincingly in the second fight? Mayweather is a versatile figher blessed with great physical gifts as well as a sharp boxing mind. It would take another fighter of that caliber and those type of fighters usually come around once every generation.

 

You have to be a combination of things to beat Mayweather ... you can't just be relentless ... you can't just pressure (even if its effective) ... you can't just be powerful ... you can't just have speed ... you can't just box ...

This guy has seen it all and you have to have more than one dimension to beat this man.

He's training to box for 15 rounds ...
He's training against bigger fighters (up to super middleweight)
He's a defensive minded fighter ...
He works on blocking and throwing 1,000's of punches ...

I don't know how to beat this guy but I do know that you got to have many different skills to beat him.

You can't just hit the shoulder and hope it breaks ... he'll just adjust to that, one thing thats common in PBF fights is his round by round adjustments ... you can't just pressure, because he moves effectively.

You can't bully him because 39 opponents have tried and i'm sure he's used to it ...

If I would have to say anything to beat this man ... you would have to be fast, skilled, schooled, patient, powerful, smart, and have a ton of endurance/stamina.

If you are able to match him in speed and movements ... then able to score effectively with clean punches ... and you don't tire yourself out during the course of 12 rounds then i'm sure you can ink out decision. You're not knocking him out ... its not impossible but its not even neccessary to think that ... its all about winning.

I don't think any fighter out right now 140-154 can beat him ... and there's no one on the rise that would change my mind either.

 

The actual blueprint on how to beat Floyd is here...

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To say that you need a good bodypunching inside game is playing into Floyd's hands rather easily...he's been fighting this way his WHOLE career.

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His inside game is VASTLY overlooked because of the Castillo fight (when he was injured) and because of his overuse of potshotting...

You have to apply both styles effectively and ALWAYS anticipate his greatest weapon...that LOOPING right hand (the one used repeatedly on Gatti...the one that comes at a slightly awkward angle). It's the only REAL power punch he has. It's the only punch in which he commits his whole body with. Take that away. And stay at a distance, while slipping in and out occassionally. And you can beat FMJ :good



PS...two people come to mind...Cotto and Pacquiao :smoke

 

Pressure is the way to beat Floyd unless maybe you're Vernon Forrest or another boxer with similiar physical attributes, but nobody except for Castillo in the first fight has had enough success in implementing it. And even in Castillo I, apparently he wasn't applying enough pressure to win the fight in the eyes of the judges.

Baldomir also tried to pressure Floyd, but he was a short, short armed, incredibly slow, all around inferior fighter that was lucky to be in the position that he was in. He brought nothing to the table except for a big head that is incredibly resilient to punches.

Gatti was told to box Floyd in the same style that Floyd used against him which is idiotic considering that Gatti wasn't taught to fight like that and was in too many wars for his body to be able to respond in a way to make the fight competitive. Not to mention that Floyd mastered his particular type of fighting style and knew the ways to exploit weaknesses in it which he did with his overhand right, left uppercut combination.

Hatton is a good fighter, and is a somewhat overlooked win on Floyd's resume. While Hatton isn't a slick boxer, he's been very successful with his mauling, tough man style, and hasn't recently shown any signs of being finished, considering he completely controlled his fight against Malinaggi. In Malinaggi's defense though, it appears that Malinaggi might be on the downside of his career.

Hatton didn't win because he neglected his jab, chose to maul and clinch Mayweather instead of fighting him in close quarters, was short enough so that Mayweather wouldn't be out of his comfort zone and could easily fight in his typical left hand down style, and basically just wasn't skilled enough to beat Mayweather, who won by being patient, and waiting for the KO to come to him.

The De La Hoya fight was one of Mayweather's most tenative performances. De La Hoya was fighting aggressively, but with an opponent who was unwilling to engage, (generally Oscar's worst type of opponent), and even when Oscar began to tire in the late rounds, and despite Roger telling Mayweather to let his hands go, Mayweather was reluctant to do anything, and just let the judges decide the outcome of the fight.

Meanwhile Pac-Man beat the **** out of Oscar. In fact Pac-Man beat Oscar so bad, I was inclined to say that Oscar threw the fight. While the weight was different and Oscar was a year older, there was nothing leading up the fight that suggested Oscar was a finished fighter.

Oscar, taller than Mayweather, managed to effectively pressure him and probably would have won the fight if he wasn't trying to be too aggressive, and tired himself out in the later rounds.

While Mosley is shorter than Oscar, he is the same height as Mayweather, faster and more elusive than Oscar when pressuring an opponent, and shows more angles, often leading with his jab. Also, Mosley is the type of fighter that lets his hands go whenever he is in a position to hit his opponent and will be less prone to mauling Mayweather than Hatton was.

Also Mosley doesn't have a reputation for tiring at the end of his fight, the most recent evidence of this is his KO of Mayorga in the 12th round and his aggression towards Cotto at the end of the fight. (However, it was later revealed that scar tissue in his fight against Cotto, blocked 60% of the oxygen from going in his nose).

So yes, pressure is the answer to beating Mayweather, it's just that nobody has been able to effectively do it.

 

Pressure will never beat Floyd, by applying pressure to Floyd you are playing straight into his hands. Floyd's reflexes are too quick, he is too smart, his timing is too good for anyone out there right now who thinks that they can beat Floyd by going looking for him.

Floyd has demonstrated on god knows how many occasions that he is a master at fighting in the pocket... pressure does not work against this guy!

I believe that the only fighter who would pose a stylistic challenge to Floyd is Winky Wright, and we all know that fight will never happen. In terms of style though, I believe that Floyd would have trouble fighting a guy like Winky.

 

SSM can NOT beat PBF now, everybody is forgetting that, SSM is OLD and past it while PBF is still at his best and that Cotto, a far inferier boxer than PBF outboxxed Mosley.

10 yrs ago it would've been a different story, as SSM was not just bigger and stronger but was the fastest man in every weight class he fought in, today while still fast he no longer has the kind of speed he had at his peak. As for the OP, PBF was kicking Castillo's ass in that clip and he won the fight, so there is no blueprint.

 

do you people understand that 90% of the fighter who have fought floyd tried to pressure him and none of the were successful

 

Pressure is what SRL used to beat Floyd's Daddy. You get a tall fighter with speed, and a good right hand, you can knock Floyd out.

You have to get him against the Ropes, get close, bully him, and throw that overhand right, and follow it up with a left uppercut. But who fits that profile right now?

Nobody, but Mosley would still give Floyd a competitive fight. If Oscar could pull a split decision, Mosley can win the fight.

 

OSCAR LOST BECAUSE HE TRIED TO PRESSURE!!

He abandoned his jab and lost the fight.

Had he kept his jab AND had better stamina...he would've won.

Refer to my previous post...