The blueprint for beating Floyd Mayweather Jr...

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  1. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Aggression, aggression, aggression. Floyd hasn't lost many rounds, or had many close fights, but the ones that have been close have been due to the other guy applying continuous pressure on Floyd.

    The De La Hoya fight wasn't as close as many people thought it was, but the reason why it was scored so close was because of the pressure Oscar was applying. The problem was, he wilted in the latter rounds. Pacquiao won't do that.

    Jose Luis Castillo, found remarkable success in the first fight because he understood how not to fight Mayweather. He got into tight formation, held his hands high, tucked in his elbows and weaved his way in until he pinned Mayweather on the ropes. Castillo landed 203 total shots to Floyd's 157, and that was because he pressured him and made him reluctant to throw, relying more on his defensive prowess.

    Floyd's arm may have been hurt, yes, but if that handicapped him in the Castillo fight, then one can say that the superior speed, power, and footwork Pacquiao possess over Castillo might produce the same results that were supposedly due to an injury in the 1st Castillo fight.

    Mayweather is so gifted that the one and only blueprint people can come up with is the "pressure blueprint", and why not? We haven't seen him losing in any other way. But remember...if he has a weakness, he has shown more than once what that weakness is.
     
  2. MasterFlo

    MasterFlo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Floyd's a lot better with pressure fighters then we give him credit for, Hatton was a pressure fighter as well. I think the key is speed and stamina, instead of using Castillo as a blueprint I think Judah should be the blueprint.
     
  3. wooz

    wooz Active Member Full Member

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    Welterweight version of Joe Calzaghe. Skillful southpaw who will outwork him during 12 rounds.
     
  4. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Mayweather has never stuggled agaisnt a southpaw. infact he is more aggresive against them.
     
  5. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    are you Billy Graham??

    why would you pressure one of the best counterpunchers of all time??
     
  6. Top Dog

    Top Dog Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is an easy way to beat Floyd, stand on the ****ers feet to stop him running like a beeitch
     
  7. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really like the Joe Calzaghe analogy but it takes a bit more than that..

    You want the perfect prototype to beat FMJ, just add to the tools Manny already has (Speed, power, angles, precise from both hands, in and out as good as anyone).... the size, reach and chin of Margarito and you have a high percentage winner.

    So imagine Pacquiao's skills in Margarito's body.
     
  8. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    The Castillo fight was a long time ago. And he had an immediate rematch and performed well. People need to give up on the whole Castillo I fight is the blue print cause Floyd has changed since then, it will be 8 years ago by the time Pac fights him.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Not a good idea to be overly aggressive vs a counterpuncher of Mayweather`s calibre I dont think, it must be controlled & you must have a good defence yourself as well as being a high level technician, someone that doesnt waste punches & is good at setting up head shots via solid body work.... similar to what a prime Julio cesar Chavez brought to the table.... there aint no fighter like Chavez today tho.
     
  10. schuey100

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl

    :happy
     
  11. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Hearns would have schooled him. Tall guy with a great jab, long reach and very fast hands. He could outbox him from the outside all night. PBF dont have the power to hurt Hearns. If Hearns can outbox SRL and his handspeed was pretty close to leonards, he could outbox PBF. How could PBF counter him from the outside when he has a huge reach advantage and very fast hands? He wouldnt get there in time. And he is too small and underpowered to try and get inside and trade with Hearns, that would be a bad idea.
     
  12. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agression i think thats already been tried (many times) and hasnt worked.
     
  13. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll have to disgree on that..I don't think you can beat Mayweather at a pace that suits his incredible timing.

    I don't think anyone can consistently set up his desired shots against Floyd, that's when he adapts and turns it into his advantage.

    I say you need to make him fight every second of every minute but certainly not Hatton style.

    Ideally, you would come inside to set up your high work rate by bobbing and weaving like Tyson use to in his best days, also using the jab to do so effectively .

    Then it doesn't matter where you hit, as long as you hit him, from various angles without doing it out of control.

    A fighter has to get used to getting tagged to unleash his own but the vast majority of the fight needs to take place on the inside where you need to stay accurately busy as much as possible or else PBF eats you up no problem..
     
  14. danlop15

    danlop15 Member Full Member

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    Can't handle pressure? two words RICKY HATTON!
     
  15. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    Blueprint for beating Fraud Mayweather? Put him in with a legit welterweight it's over. He wouldn't last 6 rounds against Cotto or SSM.

    Of course Ellerbetards all know Fraud would easily beat Cotto or SSM so why bother fighting them? They already know what would happen based on their deluded Fraud Mayweather sex fantasies.