The body belt- useless for floyd mayweather

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  1. Nawfal

    Nawfal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know hindsight is 20:20

    but i just want to get something off my chest. whenever i saw hatton and graham talking about that body belt and how it would get him ready for floyd i always used to think what the ****.

    you got some 40 year dude, who is a self proclaimed chain-smoker, so he probably aint that fit, plus another 30lbs of leather on top of him, acting as a punch bag for hatton to batter. you cant get further from someone like floyd- quick footed and generally isnt willing to trade

    "go 15 rounds on the body bag and youre ready for anything."

    i mean what is the ****ing point. why doesnt he just hit the heavy bag for 15 rounds. thats basically what graham is. he definately aint light on his feet.
     
  2. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    You might have a point if that was the only training Hatton did. But it wasn't.

    Besides that, they were training Hatton to be able to throw sustained barrages, which was the game plan along with trying to corner him.

    The plan didn't work, but it was the only plan a fighter like Hatton could have employed.
     
  3. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    idiot read it, he said why didn't hatton just use the heavybag instead.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    The body bag is a good tool. Hatton was able to get 43 straight wins using it. But it's not the right thing to work with for Mayweather...
     
  5. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hold on didn't Floyd use exactly the same thing on 24/7. He had a big fat bloke wearing body protection walk around the ring while Floyd punched him in the stomach.

    Thread void
     
  6. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Exactly :yep
     
  7. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    i have to admit every time I saw Hatton wailing away at the 'body bag' screaming his head off I thought "Does he really think this is going to help?"

    I don't think theres anything wrong with the training method, but look at the way he's doing it. The bag is so big that to hit it he'd have to be further away from Graham than Hatton EVER is when he's fighting on what he calls the 'inside' (clinching and holding). Of course ironically, this is what he seemed to do with the body bag, throw body shots from a more appropriate range (as opposed to so close that he smothers his own punches).

    I really thought this is what Hatton needed to do to land on Floyd. Get close enough that his short arms would put him inside Floyd's range, but not so close that he doesn't even have ROOM to punch. This was the number one thing you say Ricky working on during 24/7, yet he never once seemed to use anything that he worked on with the body bag.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Another problem with the body bag is that you don't have to work to get inside. Graham stays in one spot and Hatton jumps in and begins attack. It was jumping in with wide shots that led to his KO at the hands of Floyd.

    And on the inside, he is giving all of these different angles, looking great, but there is nothing coming in return, so he doesn't move his head well on the inside. In the actual fights, he resorts to clinching and mauling instead of throwing fluid combinations from different angles. Why? Because he lacks a high degree of defensive ability in close quarters.

    The BIGGEST problem though...is that the body bag obviously doesn't hit back. I know Graham throws occasional jabs, rights, and hooks, but still, sparring is a much more useful tool to go 15 rounds before a fight. Sparring will do wonders for timing, stamina, and defense - more so than the body bag.
     
  9. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    my goodness who is the avatar.....:admin
     
  10. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    Regardless of wether Hatton used the body bag or not, there's not much he could have done to beat Mayweather.
     
  11. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    i said it from jump that he was being trained wrong PERIOD

    Hatton didnt train for Mayweather he trained for his gameplan.

    Floyd trained for Hatton and it showed!
     
  12. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Does Hatton do extensive sparring?
    I never heard about him doing any in the 24/7 show, he just hit that huge body belt all the time.
     
  13. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The body bag is the piece of traning equipment that they showed in 24/7 cause it looks cool to promote a fight. Hatton hitting it hard as **** and screaming.

    I would say it is slightly better than the heavy bag since it does move around the ring some and grahams hands can fly back at hatton so he can practive head movment (notice I said slight better).

    I could say the same thing about what we saw in Floyd's traning. Why bother hitting the mits. It's not like feather fisted fast punches on some mites in any way simulate what he will face against hatton
     
  14. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I think the biggest problem is the body Bag doesn't move , it doesn't step in and bend at the waist , nor does it block or parry or step away from punches or move side way ,, its too passive and your right Ricky throws a shot and never does anything like getting his hands up expecting anything in return ..

    Compared to Floyd training , where floyd throws three shots at the mits and then covers up, parries , counters and rolls with shots that Rodger throws back at him after every combo...
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd training , where floyd throws three shots at the mits and then covers up, parries , counters and rolls with shots that Rodger throws back at him after every combo..

    Mit work is based on the premise that after every punch something is coming back at you ,, and you can see when floyd throws shot he instinctively put his right hand close to his chin and body expecting something coming back in return just has he does with mits.