The Boilermaker v The Klitschkos

Jeffries would knock out Vlad. Tougher call against Vitaly.

 

I'd pick both Klitschko's to win by knockout. Jeffries never saw anyone that hit so hard, and he'd probably have a hard time working his "punch me in the face until you get tired" style when he's not fighting an old supermiddleweight or an feather fisted opponent who hadn't won a fight in five years. Both tear him apart under modern rules.

 

Oh common Chris, this was a man who carried a dear over his shoulder after shooting it. Surely that counts for something.

 

I have inside info on Ibragimov. He lives near me, and trains near me. I converse with the boxing writers who cover him. Ibragimov is not 6'2". He's a shade over 6 feet tall. Many boxers fudge their tale of the tape, with height and reach being the most exaggerated. I'll go with what the boxing writers say. He's not 6'2" is what they say.

Ibragimov's best wins were Briggs, Holyfield, a KO over Lance Whitaker, a KO3 over Al Cole, A KO 1 over Mora, and a decison over Ahyuayna.

As an amateur Ibragimov won a few tournaments, and won sliver in the 2000 games at heavyweight, losing to the legendary Felix Savon on points.

It is notable that Ibragimov badly cut Svon and rocked him in the final round. If it was a pro match, Ibragimov would have won as Savon looked troubled, but it was an amateur match with headgear, and the final bell sounded after 4 rounds.

If you want additional information on Ibragimov, he bought a small condo on the beach, and wants to go into real estate once his ring career is over with his Russian business partners. He is also more religious than you think, and reserved among crowds.

 

But Chris, what clean film have you seen on Jeffries? The only one is a 1901 training session, and Jeffries was still developing skills when that one was filmed. It is obvious that Jeffries was a good athlete, strong, flexible and quick. Don't you think he could adjust to modern rules? This punch you in the face strategy is not true at all. Fight reports say Jeffries had good footwork, and could make a man miss many times, and this includes Corbett and Fitzsimmons.

Conversely, the jab was not a developed punch in the late 1900's, and the training methods / nutrition were not as good. If Wlad and Vitlai fought back then, they would not be as skilled as they are now.

I prefer to rate the man, as much as the era.

 

Difficult to pit two fighters from vastly different eras against each other. Boxing was a different sport 100 years ago. Back then Jeffries was seen as a giant. Today he would be an averaged sized HW. He would'nt enjoy the size advantages he had back in his own era. Corbett and Fitzsimmons would be light HW's today. Maybe even super middleweights. The jab and combination punching were practically nonexistent back then as well. Could Jeffries take punches from a hard punching technically proficient 6"5' 240lb boxer such as Wlad? A fighter who throws more than one punch at a time and utilizes a long hard jab to boot? Jeffries would be trying to hit Wlad from a different area code! I'm sure if Jim connected enough times he could hurt and/or stop Wlad but with his style of fighting I just don't see it. This is'nt a 167lb Fitzsimmons or a 175lb Corbett we're talking about. This is a big modern day athlete with better skills. As tough as Jim was I just don't see him defeating the likes of a Wlad. Klitschko by KO around the 9th or 10th.

 

You wont get anywhere with Jeffries untill you get past this fable of a fighter who sat and absorbed punches with his body untill his oponent got tired.

The reality was somewhat diferent.

 

I dont think that either Klitschko was in the same ballpark as Fitzsimmons or Corbett in terms of, skills relative to the rule set of the respective period.

They are fighters with good fundamentals. These guys were maestros who polished what they did to a science.

 

i'd pick vitali. don't konw avout vladdy

 

I think the modern training methods, weights etc. are part of the Klitschko's package, Jeff was a natural strongman...Jeff was a Big man, lots of stamina old school....I like Vitali by decsion (awkward style) and Vlad in a tough one but keeps the jab working, body work of Jeff slows down Vlad,,,Vlad gets on the bike and pops for a close win with some rocky moments...but I am giving Jeff a lot of respect here