The book on Ruslan Chagaev

Skeleton ! One of Mendoza's funnier **** ups !
Pretty big Skeleton at 254 3/4lbs

 

I don't understand how anybody can think Chagaev has a chance.

I'll break it down for ya'll.

1) Chagaev has an amateur style based around his 1-2. Generally, this is not a bad thing, especially if a fighter has a more diversified offense, but considering Chagaev lacks the speed to put together fluid combinations against upper level opposition, (for the heavyweights basically just Wlad, Haye and Vitali, although Chag was having trouble doing this against Valuev who is neither upper level nor fast), this will be determintal against Klitschko who has height, reach, and athleticism advantages over Chagaev and also uses the 1-2 as his main offensive weapons.

2) Chagaev is a southpaw who likes to use an in and out, high guard attack, but does not look particularly fast with his foot movement and looks to be just average with his hand speed, but either way slower than Klitschko in both categories, despite being the smaller man. Since Chagaev's main offensive weapon is his left straight, and with his stance it's the farthest hand from Klitschko, he will be in a world of hurt when he finds out how hard it is to connect on Klitschko with his straight left, just as Ibriganov came to find out.

3) Chagaev lacks power and speed. Against Valuev who is incredibly slow, Chagaev didn't appear much faster, and against many opponents his power seemed questionable at best, but certainly not in the league of Peter, Haye, Vitali or Wlad. Maybe slightly higher than a guy like Povetkin, but less than that of Ibriganov. His footwork is also not fast enough to allow him to shoot in with his 1-2 and avoid getting hit.

4) Chagaev doesn’t have the defense to cope with Klitschko. While Chagaev’s defense is better than 95% of the heavyweight division, that isn’t saying much. He does move his head, and he does hold his hands high, and can sometimes be an elusive target, but he has faced limited opposition who did not have the talent or the fortitude to offer any serious threat to Chagaev, yet against recent opposition, Chagaev has not appeared to be much of a world beater either. Still though, he won’t be able to avoid the more athletic and faster Klitschko and Chagaev doesn’t have the defensive ability or style as the Jeff Mayweather trained Ibriganov.

5) He has been injured often, hasn’t looked good in his last few fights, and may very well be on the decline. Chagaev may very well come into the fight in the best shape of his life, although it won’t be enough, but it’s doubtful considering his layoffs and the fact that he isn’t getting any younger.

So basically if you put all these factors together, Klitschko will bide his time as Chagaev finds out right away how hard it is to hit Klitschko especially with his limited offense, as Klitschko jabs away and occasionally lands right hands. Chagaev will then have to respond desperately as he does not have the defense of Ibriganov, but his attack will be futile as he doesn’t have offensive versatility to frequently land on Klitschko nor the power to capitalize when he does. This fight actually has the makings of spectacular KO as the severely overmatched Chagaev will have nowhere to run and will eventually, inevitably be brutalized by Klitschko.

This is a set up fight to make Klitschko look good against an opponent who has no chance. Hopefully Haye will fight an opponent, perhaps one with a chance, and brutalize him as well to set up a super fight in the NEAR future. But fans rooting for Chagaev, don’t get your hopes up as your man has no chance.

 

Read the above post cuz this is some papermade bull**** right here. Chagaev is made to order for Wlad.

 

Ibriganov won the silver medal in the olympics, and Chagaev fights like an amateur.

 

im surprised you didnt spot it

A huge skeleton imagine if he fought the whole body

pretty easy mistake to make though i make them ones all the time

 

To say that he would be top 5 in any era is a huge joke.

Above Walcott?

Are you ****in kiddin me?

This mother ****er would be consistantly beat to the punch and eventually knocked out cold. He wants to be Floyd Patterson, but he lacks the offensive arsenal, speed, footwork, etc.....etc.......etc.

Top 5.

What a joke.

 

Who? Me?

 

Blatantly his agenda and while Wladdy is very accomplished and will make my top20 nearing top15 when hes done, this fight isnt HUGE, its another decent scalp

 

I agree with this post!
I called Chagaev moderate and thats what he is.

 

That's because people could actually fight back then and the talent pool was deep.

So forget his resume, when you have that many people that can fight, it's almost impossible to stay undefeated. Walcott was a master boxer, and he would have picked Chagaev apart and made it look simple as he outmanuevers him easily, and finds openings on Chagaev's predictable style of boxing.

Chagaev uses a defense similar to Floyd Patterson, but poorly executed, and considering it was Patterson's workrate, and especially his speed that allowed him to get away with it without getting hit much in return, and that's something that Chagaev lacks.

Patterson could also put together combinations, another thing that Chagaev seems to have trouble doing, and considering Patterson was very good, but not great, which I'm not saying has to do with his style considering I can think of one particular fighter who is one of the most dangerous fighters in the history of the game using that same style, Chagaev is going to have a hell of a time excuting against Wlad who is a much better athlete and a tenative fighter that will bide his time and look for openings.

So, no I don't think Chagaev can hang. The guy is no world beater. You have to realize that the 50's was when Ray Robinson, widely considered the world's pfp #1 fighters walked the ring, so it's very difficult for me to say that fighters did not attempt to emulate what he did, especially considering there is evidence on film that shows guys that actually know what they're doing in the ring.

 

I don't mean that he fights poorly, but that he fights with an amateur style. It's very basic and made for the amatuers.

And while I haven't seen the fight, I can see Chagaev outpointing a younger more aggressive Ibriganov, but by that I mean, hitting him with the white part of his glove, rather than putting together meaningful, bad intentioned punches, but I admit that's speculation as I said I have not seen the match.

Wlad is a nightmare matchup for a short southpaw with an amatuer style. This will be a surgical disection with a massacre right at the end if Wlad plays it right.

If Wlad fails to KO Chagaev towards the end in spectacular fashion, he will be heavily critizcized as the fans are tantalized with boredom. This is a fight where Wlad better deliver or HBO is going to send Hit Man Haye in to put a stop to this madness.

What's sad though is that Wlad is possibly even more tallented than Haye in the sense that he hits very hard, and has great timing for a big man, using his height perfectly to his advantage, but because of his tenativeness and his reliance on a predictable but often unstoppable offense, Haye with his speed, and explosiveness will counter Wlad's punches and daze Wlad into confusion and paralaysis as he will give up as he is being pummled because of his inability to make a fight out of a boxing match when necessary.

Wlad needs this knockout win and he needs to take risks because this is a guy that Warren Buffet would even pick, and that's one of the most conservative mother ****ers I can think of.

Point is.....Klitschko better knock this guy out.

 

I have to agree ruslan doesnt stand a great shot here, wlad should win