The bottomless pit Cotto now finds himself

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  1. TSipper

    TSipper New Member Full Member

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    When Miguel Cotto awakes in the morning, he will do so knowing that he is staring down the barrel of 24 more rounds against a fighter in which he fought magnificantly in the first 10 rounds - and got knocked out in the 11th - if he wants to regain his soul.

    This goes beyond just losing a fight as Cotto fought as well as he possibly can tonight, he landed frequent massive and clean shots, he ducked and rolled punches, defended, moved, jabbed, etc...and it was not enough. Cotto's corner did everything they could before the fight to get him prepared and their strategy and cut work during the fight was top notch...and it was not enough

    By every measure of a fighter and a man, Cotto put his best foot forward tonight and has absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. But I wonder, as I am sure Cotto does, if he really can beat Margo over the 24 rounds required to regain his place in the boxing world. And if not, where does he go from here?

    One more thing, regardless of who Cotto fights next - whether it be Margo, Paul Williams or a fighter off the ESB board! - he will have to do it without the supreme confidence and self belief that comes with being and unbeaten champion who has slayed all previous comers. That in and of itself has been enough to break men in the past, will Cotto be different?
     
  2. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Nice post.

    I myself have been thinking how this loss affects Cotto's mindset from here on in, will be a mark of the man to see him come through it back to winning ways.
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a lot of respect for Cotto.

    What happened to Rosario after J.C. Chavez beat him up?

    But fighters do lose and come back....time will tell.
     
  4. TSipper

    TSipper New Member Full Member

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    Losing a fight the way Cotto did tonight does absolutely nothing to diminish him as a warrior and fighter in my eyes. What it does do, though, is it causes me to wonder if Cotto can be the legit 147lb king in a post-Mayweather world or if he will forever be a fighter that sweats class and professionalism but is lacking just that little bit of magic that separates the all-time greats from the very goods.

    Either way, tonight represented all that can be right in the boxing world when you have two game, prime, hungry fighters who are willing to do anything to win. This kind of fight will get my PPV dollar each and every time.
     
  5. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pffft Margo came back fine after losing to Williams, why would it be any different for Cotto. As long as he stays away from Margo and Williams he'll do just fine, well unless he fails to improve his stamina issues.
     
  6. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe it's better to have a loss on your record, this way these fighters/fans don't have to act it like it's the end of the world if they lose it.
     
  7. TSipper

    TSipper New Member Full Member

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    Margo's loss to Paul Williams in no way compares to the loss Cotto had tonight. Williams outworked Margo, was physically bigger and able to use his right shoulder to push Margo away and Margo wasn't able to find his range until late in the fight and then Williams showed he has a chin as well.

    I had Cotto winning on my card and I felt that he had landed the much better shots and yet, Margo kept coming and won the fight. What about Margo-Cotto II would be different than what we saw tonight? I think a second fight would go much the way of Pac-Morales II in which Morales gave everything he had to win the first fought and couldn't call upon that level of reserve to survive in the second (or third).
     
  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Margo lost on points in a close fight where Cotto got beat to the point his corner feared for his health and threw in the towel. Where Cotto himself had to to go to his knee twice cause of punches he was accumilating. This wasn't a wild haymaker Ko, this was a beat down.

    There is a big difference in coming back from this type of lost.
     
  9. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All because he was gassed. I believe a certain heavyweight champion went through the same situation, if not worse. I swear this is what's so annoying about boxing fans, if a fighter loses then everyone thinks their career is over. This is where MMA has a huge advantage, since fighters are actually allowed to lose and then come back and fight another day with their fans intact!
     
  10. BoxingKangaroo

    BoxingKangaroo Active Member Full Member

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    his stamina was punched out of him, im sure if margo had not targeted the body of cotto so much he would of finished strong.
     
  11. TSipper

    TSipper New Member Full Member

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    I am not saying that the fighter isn't allowed to lose, but its the manner in which Cotto lost that is troubling. What can he better or differently in the second fight than he did tonight.

    Had Cotto got caught by a piped right hand, well, that happens and fixing that problem is something you can work on. But getting leveled after spending 10 rounds winning a war doesn't leave a fighter with a lot of room for changes or improvements.

    Had this been an MMA fight, I would feel the same way and that is, if Cotto and Margo fight 10 times, Margo wins 10 times.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post.

    The other thing I hope is that Cotto doesn't suffer any lasting effects from the fight. A war like that has cut short the prime of more than 1 fighter as it just takes something out of you. I hope that's not the case with Miguel and that he takes enough time off to completely recover. Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of for him, though.

    Props to Margo for putting together a fight that'd make any ex-fighter proud, especially the throwbacks who had no choice but to take a beating before their sheer toughness and will broke their opponent.
     
  13. IrnBruMan

    IrnBruMan Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Cotto will come back better for the loss.

    He has the mental fortitude to do so.

    Margo proved many of his detractors wrong today.

    What a beast.
     
  14. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    the williams loss and this loss are two VERY DIFFERANT kind of loses :blood
     
  15. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Gas? damn man, give prop to Margo for working the body and landing the shots. He wasn't gased. Margo took the gas out of him. It was body work by Margo. Give credit where credit is due.

    Also no one is saying his career is over. People are curious how he will react. In boxing there is a history of young guys not being themself after a brutal beating. A very long list/ Here are just a few Judah, Lacy, Reid, Vargas, Forest.....

    This isn't MMA. Different sport. i don't know why people who love boxing aways bring it up. Not the same animal.