The boxer NO ONE could touch was a myth

Hyperbolic post. Locche was unreal.

 

Dipping below the waist would be nigh on inevitable if Frazier or Marciano was fighting the likes of Fury, height differentials and all that, but likewise fighters like Fury use their height to lean on and push shorter fighters downwards, which is rule breaking but happens.

Dipping low yes offers minimal target, but also unless you intend to do a Golota and rattle your opponents foul cup, you are going to have to and your opponent knows you are going to have to, rise up to go on the offensive which is not the most safe transition, it requires mega timing and/or athleticism.

I sure would not criticise Locche, i just watch with awe at his defensive skills, it sure is not just bending at the waist, i wish i had a fraction of a per cent of those defensive qualities in my competitive days, i would have had way less bumps, bruises split lips and headaches.

 

I saw the fight live and it was definitely televised the next evening on BBC Sportsnigh although I can't find it anywhere. Pat Cowdell v Jimmy Flint. Pat broke Jimmy's heart. Made him miss for 4 rounds while barely throwing a punch.
A masterclass.

 

This post has done nothing for your reputation mark.

 

First off, these rules seem contemporary and are UK rules. They are not universal rules for all jurisdictions for all time immortal. Rulebooks evolve … so you’d have to show us a rule set from the time and place Locche fought (which may be supplemented or even supplanted by a governing body’s rules in title fights — for instance in some title fights the three knockdown rule would be waved, or a local commission may allow standing 8-counts but a WBA or WBC not allow them in their title fights.

Furthermore, read the very top of the link you provided: Boxers can (NOT WILL) get warnings or disqualified depending on the seriousness of the fouls.

Which means it is entirely the discretion of the referee. You may think, for instance, that some boxer is excessively holding, but the referee may determine that it’s not to the level at which a warning should be issued (or a DQ if it continues) … and by the way the very rulebook you cite is written, it’s entirely up to the ref to decide.

So you don’t get to say ‘well in my judgment this Locche fellow is breaking the rules to the degree he should be DQ’d’ and cite it as fact, because the rulebook says he can be warned or DQ’d … not that he WILL be.

 

To take a fighter like Locche who is hardly over rated by anyone, but is renowned unequivocally a defensive master, and to use his alias of 'The Untouchable' as reasoning for him being over rated is hilarious. Boxing aliases are hyperbole mark, not fact.

This is a secret? Who kept this secret from you Mark? Locche was only good because they dipped below the waist? I wonder... if that is they case... why isn't every fighter doing this and becoming comparable to names like Locche, Mayweather, and Marciano like you said? If this is the secret to their defense I wonder why it isn't taught to every fighter because surely it is an easy technique to pull of with consistency for 10 to 15 rounds against some of the greatest competition in the world. You need to get in contact with Freddie Roach, this secret must be shared!

To dip below the waist is not a illegal move. Even if it were, it's an ignorant rule. It's used by countless fighters as a evasive and defensive tactic for over a hundred years and continues to allow the sport to be competitive and exciting.

Nothing about the technique is unfair or easy. Dempsey, Frazier, Tyson, Locche, Mayweather, Patterson, Marciano. Henry Armstrong! All dipped below the waist to name a few. Guess you would disqualify any of their fights employing the technique as "rubbish" right? Do you know what all those fighters have in common? Some of the arguably most exciting fights and styles of all time.

 

His reactions before punches were thrown is incredible. A barrel chested chain smoker shouldn't be able to manuever like that haha

 

Mark ,I may be wrong but you are a fan of Pernell Whitaker,
he got as low as some of his opponents knee's. (Not quite)
But......
What's the difference?

 

No difference. His bias is clear most times.

 

There's an element of truth in what you say. But it has limits. See: Reid / Ottke. You can reach a point where the rules aren't just whatever the ref says they are.

 

Every great fighter has at least one dirty trick up there sleeve

 

Is Floyd Mayweather overrated for using his forearm?