The Boxing Historian's Toolbox

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Sep 19, 2007.


  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The best answer I can give is that there is no "official" definition of a boxing historian except that it has to involve boxing history. This thread is simply to allow people to get a better knowledge of that history.
     
  2. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know, just trying to stir debate. count dooku is also the man, but not as much as fitzsimmons.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The Brooklyn Daily Eagle online is a godsend. Any fighter active pre 1902 you can find information on their major fights and trivia abot them.

    http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Archive/skins/BE/navigator.asp?skin=BE&BP=OK&AW=1191011762593
     
  4. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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  5. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Newspaperarchive often has poor-quality scans, where the text is barely recognizable, while Brooklyn has scanned it's newspapers at considerably better quality.
     
  6. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An essay on nostalgia which oftens affects experts and fans opinions on the past. It should give a better idea why a historian should rely on primary sources as much as possible.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    For the most part yes. The Oakland Tribune and the NY Times are decent.
     
  9. millingcove

    millingcove New Member Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano as an example of a fighter with an Iron Chin-ie never knocked down??? Apart from the ones he suffered against Walcott and Moore you mean?
     
  10. Brian Zelley

    Brian Zelley Active Member Full Member

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    Excellent information.

    Using records alone to judge the greatness of a boxer is only
    part of the process.

    We all have our preferences regarding style etc.,
    but is likely most can agree on the top boxers of all
    time such as Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Sugar Ray Robinson, Harry Greb,
    Henry Armstrong, Barney Ross,Roberto Duran, Tony Canzoneri, Willie Pep,
    Eder Jofre and Jimmy Wilde.

    Likely mixed views on the likes of Jack Johnson, Rocky Marciano,
    Muhammed Ali, Bob Foster, Carlos Monzon, Emile Griffith, Joe Brown,
    Sandy Saddler and Vincente Saldivar.

    Then there are those greats that are considered by many to be
    uncrowned champions such as Sam Langford, Billy Miske, & Harry Wills.

    Then there are those many champions that it doesn't matter how high they are rated. They were exciting warriors such as Rocky Graziano,
    Tony Zale, Jose Napoles, Carlos Ortiz, Jose Torres, and Floyd Patterson
    Or, those contenders like Ruben Hurricane Carter, Henry Cooper, Joey Archer, Eddie Cotton, George Chuvalo, Yvon Durelle, and Gaspar Ortega.
     
  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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  12. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only just seen this CT - great post!!

    Thanks
     
  13. ray fredrickson

    ray fredrickson Member Full Member

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    Thanks,I love sport!!! Im 60 follower since 60. Have 300 old RINGS< box&wrestling love old RINGrecord books just love the sport from Great John L. to WLAD!!!
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Hello.

    Are you the same JMC that just had his YouTube account suspended? No more Tiger-Fernandez :twisted:
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good man! You were on such a roll there for a little while...what they get you for? It's been bothering.

    Added to favourites.