The boxing prejudice against heavy weight training

This is a good point. A lot of coaches take psychology into account, not just raw stats and biology. In a gym full of strong guys and testosterone, a weight bench will inevitably lead to he man standoffs. It's for the same reason that some trainers get annoyed with heavybags because they inevitably result in at least 1 guy showing off his power rather than getting a good workout in (even though heavybags provide undeniable benefit).

The coach may have 5, 10, even 20+ students he has to look after. Unless the boxer is moderately knowledgeable about weights or emotionally mature, there's a very significant possibility they'll injure themselves and this could lead to fight cancellations. Especially if they're involved in the aforementioned pissing contests.

 

I don't understand why it bothers some people and makes them so insecure that a handful fighters/coaches (ie Petronelli and Hagler) swear by non-lifting.

Like, okay, great, you think it would be beneficial to everybody to incorporate it into training. But, if someone chooses to forego it, ...so what? How is that personally hurting you? Why is it incumbent upon them to justify their choice or "prove" to you that their preferred methods are demonstrably superior to what you consider properly applied sports science? Live and let, no?

I've hardly ever seen any fighters, coaches or fans on any crusade preaching that nobody should lift heavy weights as part of boxing training. I've seen plenty of people on the other side, however, proselytizing until blue in the face and issuing vitriol toward any who do not share their view.

 

Also you have to do are some pushups , chin up, plenty of heavy bag work, sparring and running and you'll be all set

 

I know Angelo Dundee was specifically against it, he said he doesn't like making his fighters do things that weren't "natural" or something along those lines

 

Boxing is not mma or wrestling spar and hit the damn bag

 

What are people's thoughts on manual labor developing a boxer's muscles/endurance? Can this be a valid substitute for weight lifting? This is what Dempsey said in regards to all the odd jobs he had in his youth:


'The hard work I did as a youngster helped me to attain my aim when I grew older. As soon as I was old enough to wear boxing gloves, I was put to work. Years of it made a fighting man. No allowance was made for my youth. I hired out to do a man's job although I was only a boy, and I did it. That farm work was the best thing that ever happened to me. It helped me develop my arms, shoulders and back - physical growth that put me in trim for the arduous work I later encountered when I entered the ring.

The grimy, dirty work in the copper mines in my later period of development, performed many feet underground - hauling, lifting, swinging a pick - helped in the buildup. All that manual labour counted in my favour...

...I had good arms and wonderful hands and I used them to advantage in my early bouts. Even in those fights, I carried a good wallop in either fist. That is what made me decide on a pro fighting career. I got the impression that in my punching power, I had special assets.'

- Jack Dempsey

 

Honestly. As a former farm kid no, It can't. big waste of energy and it will bust up your joints in the long run weightlifting is rejuvenating heavy squatting helped my knees for instance.

 

Shane Mosley lifted weights and was very quick.
Its one of the great boxing myths just like how boxers who have sex right before the fight have weaker legs.
It simply is not true.

 

Err, it's been medically proven that sex can make a guy very drowsy and lethargic. The chemicals released after ejaculation encourage sleeping and a relaxed state. Busting the night before even a sparring match can make you feel weaker and less alert.

 

No its not. As a matter of fact they tested the theory with Chris Byrd and the video is on YouTube.
They tested his testosterone levels before and after and his testosterone levels actually INCREASED after.
It was a myth that was debunked.

 

Awesome post and totally agree. I think it was the TIME the boxer would have to spend with the woman that concerned the trainers. Samething with weights.

 

Serum T. The one you have measured- It doesn't really matter if it is within a normal range even the most significant natural levels don't change much. You get heighted T levels after a win on COD, playing Cards etc it doesn't mean much I think you have it on the money Cross they could have packaged it as "women weaken legs" to keep them away from a serious relationship I dunno.

 

"Research shows that during ejaculation, men release a cocktail of brain chemicals, including norepinephrine, serotonin, oxytocin, vasopressin, nitric oxide (NO), and the hormone prolactin. ... Oxytocin is also thought to reduce stress levels, which again could lead to relaxation and sleepiness."

https://www.livescience.com/32445-w... thought to,lead to relaxation and sleepiness.