The Boxrec March Madness HW Tournament! FIRST ROUND

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well it's that time of year, and we always seem to do some sort of tournament among the HW's. We usually end up doing someones personal slotting system, and I thought why not use boxrec as our seeding committee...Sure they are falible and inaccurate and misguided and yes. sometimes even pathetic, but hey, so is the NCAA selection committee. So with no bias in seeding using the snake format of their rankings here is the first round:

    DEADLINE FOR PICKS: THURSDAY MARCH 11 at 11:59 PM (I will post the winners and 2nd rd matchups on FRIDAY MARCH 12)

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    PhillyPhan69, Mar 5, 2010
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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    EAST:
    1. Muhammad Ali vs 16. Sandy Ferguson - Ali
    8. Jim Braddock vs 9. Charley Weinert - Braddock
    5. Mike Tyson vs 12. Gus Ruhlin - Tyson
    4. Jack Sharkey vs 13. Peter Maher - Sharkey
    3. Joe Jeanette vs 14. Bill Lang - Jeanette
    6. Riddick Bowe vs 11. Jimmy Ellis - Bowe
    7. Ingemar Johansson vs 10. Henry Cooper - Johansson
    2. Jack Johnson vs 15 George Chuvalo - Johnson

    SOUTH:
    1. Sam Langford vs 16 Tommy Jackson - Langford
    8. Zora Folley vs 9. Marvin Hart - Folley
    5. Rocky Marciano vs 12. Johnny Risko - Marciano
    4. Sam McVea vs 13. Primo Carnera - Carnera
    3. Joe Frazier vs 14. Jimmy Young - Frazier
    6. Jack Dempsey vs 11. Fireman Jim Flynn - Dempsey
    7. Max Baer vs 10. Paulino Uzcudun - Baer
    2. Evander Holyfield vs 15. Ernie Schaaf - Holyfield

    NORTH:
    1. Harry Wills vs 16. Tim Witherspoon - Witherspoon
    8. Al Kaufmann vs 9. Bob Pastor - Pastor
    5. Sonny Liston vs 12. Frank Bruno - Liston
    4. Jimmy Bivens vs 13. Gerrie Coetzee - Bivins
    3. Lennox Lewis vs 14. Gunboat Smith - Lewis
    6. Billy Miske vs 11. Nino valdes - Valdes
    7. Tommy burns vs 12. Lee Q Murray - Burns
    2. Larry Holmes vs 15. Pat Valentino - Holmes

    WEST:
    1. Joe Louis vs 16. Ernie Terell - Louis
    8. Elmer Ray vs 9. Jerry Quarry - Quarry
    5. George Foreman vs 12. Joe Bugner - Foreman
    4. Jersey Joe Walcott vs 13. Lee Oma - Walcott
    3. Max Schmelling vs 14. Lee Savold - Schmeling
    6. Ken Norton vs 11. Jim Jeffries - Jeffries
    7. Mike Weaver vs 9. Eddie Machen - Machen
    2. Floyd Patterson vs 15. Bob Roper - Patterson
     
    GPater11093, Mar 5, 2010
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  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    EAST:
    1. Muhammad Ali vs 16. Sandy Ferguson - Ali
    8. Jim Braddock vs 9. Charley Weinert - Braddock
    5. Mike Tyson vs 12. Gus Ruhlin - Tyson
    4. Jack Sharkey vs 13. Peter Maher - Sharkey
    3. Joe Jeanette vs 14. Bill Lang - Jeanette
    6. Riddick Bowe vs 11. Jimmy Ellis - Bowe
    7. Ingemar Johansson vs 10. Henry Cooper - Johansson
    2. Jack Johnson vs 15 George Chuvalo - Johnson

    SOUTH:
    1. Sam Langford vs 16 Tommy Jackson - Langford
    8. Zora Folley vs 9. Marvin Hart - Folley
    5. Rocky Marciano vs 12. Johnny Risko - Marciano
    4. Sam McVea vs 13. Primo Carnera - Carnera
    3. Joe Frazier vs 14. Jimmy Young - Frazier
    6. Jack Dempsey vs 11. Fireman Jim Flynn - Dempsey
    7. Max Baer vs 10. Paulino Uzcudun - Baer
    2. Evander Holyfield vs 15. Ernie Schaaf - Holyfield

    NORTH:
    1. Harry Wills vs 16. Tim Witherspoon - Wills
    8. Al Kaufmann vs 9. Bob Pastor - Pastor
    5. Sonny Liston vs 12. Frank Bruno - Liston
    4. Jimmy Bivens vs 13. Gerrie Coetzee - Bivins
    3. Lennox Lewis vs 14. Gunboat Smith - Lewis
    6. Billy Miske vs 11. Nino valdes - Miske
    7. Tommy burns vs 12. Lee Q Murray - Murry
    2. Larry Holmes vs 15. Pat Valentino - Holmes

    WEST:
    1. Joe Louis vs 16. Ernie Terell - Louis
    8. Elmer Ray vs 9. Jerry Quarry - Quarry
    5. George Foreman vs 12. Joe Bugner - Foreman
    4. Jersey Joe Walcott vs 13. Lee Oma - Walcott
    3. Max Schmelling vs 14. Lee Savold - Schmeling
    6. Ken Norton vs 11. Jim Jeffries - Jeffries
    7. Mike Weaver vs 9. Eddie Machen - Weaver
    2. Floyd Patterson vs 15. Bob Roper - Patterson
     
    Bummy Davis, Mar 5, 2010
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  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. EleventhHour

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    EAST:
    1. Muhammad Ali vs 16. Sandy Ferguson - Ali
    8. Jim Braddock vs 9. Charley Weinert - Braddock
    5. Mike Tyson vs 12. Gus Ruhlin - Tyson
    4. Jack Sharkey vs 13. Peter Maher - Sharkey
    3. Joe Jeanette vs 14. Bill Lang - Jeanette
    6. Riddick Bowe vs 11. Jimmy Ellis - Bowe
    7. Ingemar Johansson vs 10. Henry Cooper - Johansson
    2. Jack Johnson vs 15 George Chuvalo - Johnson

    SOUTH:
    1. Sam Langford vs 16 Tommy Jackson - Langford
    8. Zora Folley vs 9. Marvin Hart - Folley
    5. Rocky Marciano vs 12. Johnny Risko - Marciano
    4. Sam McVea vs 13. Primo Carnera - Carnera
    3. Joe Frazier vs 14. Jimmy Young - Frazier
    6. Jack Dempsey vs 11. Fireman Jim Flynn - Dempsey
    7. Max Baer vs 10. Paulino Uzcudun - Baer
    2. Evander Holyfield vs 15. Ernie Schaaf - Holyfield

    NORTH:
    1. Harry Wills vs 16. Tim Witherspoon - Wills
    8. Al Kaufmann vs 9. Bob Pastor - Pastor
    5. Sonny Liston vs 12. Frank Bruno - Liston
    4. Jimmy Bivens vs 13. Gerrie Coetzee - Bivins
    3. Lennox Lewis vs 14. Gunboat Smith - Lewis
    6. Billy Miske vs 11. Nino valdes - Miske
    7. Tommy burns vs 12. Lee Q Murray - Burns
    2. Larry Holmes vs 15. Pat Valentino - Holmes

    WEST:
    1. Joe Louis vs 16. Ernie Terell - Louis
    8. Elmer Ray vs 9. Jerry Quarry - Quarry
    5. George Foreman vs 12. Joe Bugner - Foreman
    4. Jersey Joe Walcott vs 13. Lee Oma - Walcott
    3. Max Schmelling vs 14. Lee Savold - Schmeling
    6. Ken Norton vs 11. Jim Jeffries - Jeffries
    7. Mike Weaver vs 9. Eddie Machen - Machen
    2. Floyd Patterson vs 15. Bob Roper - Patterson
     
    EleventhHour, Mar 5, 2010
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  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one interested??? I know the rankings are not great and there are quite a few gimmes as there would be in most 1st and 2nd rd match-ups, but there are some interesting encounters as well!

    8-9 Braddock vs weinert (3-1)
    4-13 McVea vs carnera (1-3)
    1-16 Wills vs Witherspoon (3-1)
    4-13 Bivins vs Coetzee (3-1)
    6-11 Miske vs Valdes (3-1)
    7-10 Burns vs Murray (2-2)
    8-9 ray vs quarry (1-3)
    6-11 Norton vs Jeffries (0-4 anybody see a Norton win?)
    7-10 Weaver vs Machen (1-3)

    Anybody???
     
    PhillyPhan69, Mar 6, 2010
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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Some of the lower seeds do not belong.
     
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  8. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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  9. Meast

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    Ali
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    Braddock
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    Tyson
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    Jeanette
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    Bowe
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  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The more consistant and proven Wills takes the day.

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    Pastor gives Kaufman a boxing lesson.

    Bruno gets anihilated.

    I will be bold and say that Bivins would outpoint Coetze.

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    Smith does his best but is overmatched.

    A bold pick.

    I will go with Miske to do an Archie Moore on Valdez.

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    I would have to go with Murray.

    He has too much of a package.


    Valentino is totaly outclassed.

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    Terell wishes he was in the ring with Ali again.

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    This is honestly a pick em fight.

    I would go with Ray because he has a slightly fatter portfolio against the elite.
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    No comment necesary.

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    See boxrec.


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    Savold gets slowly butchered.
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    Jeffries finds Nortons chin and closes the deal.
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    Pick em.

    I would probably go with Machen due to his boxing ability.
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    Patterson (no justification necesary)
     
    janitor, Mar 7, 2010
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  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Explain please.
     
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  13. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    EAST:
    1. Muhammad Ali vs 16. Sandy Ferguson -Aaaah Ali
    8. Jim Braddock vs 9. Charley Weinert-Braddock, just
    5. Mike Tyson vs 12. Gus Ruhlin-Tyson, ko 1
    4. Jack Sharkey vs 13. Peter Maher-Upset here, Maher Ko
    3. Joe Jeanette vs 14. Bill Lang-joe
    6. Riddick Bowe vs 11. Jimmy Ellis-Bowe
    7. Ingemar Johansson vs 10. Henry Cooper-As real life
    2. Jack Johnson vs 15 George Chuvalo-Jack

    SOUTH:
    1. Sam Langford vs 16 Tommy Jackson-Sam
    8. Zora Folley vs 9. Marvin Hart-Hard one, Hart maybe
    5. Rocky Marciano vs 12. Johnny Risko-Marciano
    4. Sam McVea vs 13. Primo Carnera-McVea
    3. Joe Frazier vs 14. Jimmy Young-Joe
    6. Jack Dempsey vs 11. Fireman Jim Flynn-Flynn, KO1(grin)
    7. Max Baer vs 10. Paulino Uzcudun-Max
    2. Evander Holyfield vs 15. Ernie Schaaf-holy

    NORTH:
    1. Harry Wills vs 16. Tim Witherspoon-Great match-up, Tim by late ko
    8. Al Kaufmann vs 9. Bob Pastor-Bob, pts
    5. Sonny Liston vs 12. Frank Bruno-Sonny, brutal ko
    4. Jimmy Bivens vs 13. Gerrie Coetzee-Bivins
    3. Lennox Lewis vs 14. Gunboat Smith-Lewis
    6. Billy Miske vs 11. Nino valdes-Miske, pts
    7. Tommy burns vs 10. Lee Q Murray-Burns
    2. Larry Holmes vs 15. Pat Valentino-Larry

    WEST:
    1. Joe Louis vs 16. Ernie Terell-Louis
    8. Elmer Ray vs 9. Jerry Quarry-Quarry
    5. George Foreman vs 12. Joe Bugner-George
    4. Jersey Joe Walcott vs 13. Lee Oma=JJW
    3. Max Schmelling vs 14. Lee Savold-Max
    6. Ken Norton vs 11. Jim Jeffries-Hard call, Jeff by late KO?
    7. Mike Weaver vs 10. Eddie Machen-Machen, pts
    2. Floyd Patterson vs 15. Bob Roper-Patterson
     
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  14. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You know Maher like no other.

    I think a few people would be interested to hear why you rate him so highly.
     
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