The Brawl in Montreal - who would defeat Duran on that night?

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a safe answer, but as I've always said, no two fights are the same. How many people would have predicted with any degree of certainty that Lewis would have won the rematch against Rahman? And keep in mind Duran did beat Barkley, the same Barkley how beat Hearns twice. But if you had to pick a favorite, Hearns has to be it, but that doesn't guarantee a particular outcome, the way you imply it does.
     
  2. tommythomas3

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    Only Robinson can beat this Duran, though I lean towards Duran. There are no 3 welterweight that can beat this Roberto! Robinson or Duran, i would never be surprised no matter the outcome, and no money is bet here... This would have been the GOAT match!

    Hearns: Their actual fight was at light middleweight where Hearns was the GOAT. NO ONE could beat him there. Duran was out of shape too and got caught cold. Hearns was the only other welterweight that might beat him, but only if he hears the final bell... Hearns did not know how to clinch here, Duran would have been in shape, he had a granite chin, much better defense, and Hearns might not be able to knock him out here. Either Hearns escapes by clear decision while being on the verge of being KO'ed or Duran by come from behind KO, which is more likely.

    Leonard: He was a cheater. When both at their best fought, Duran won. That what Ray did, catching him out of shape was a cheap shot. You don't take advantage of someone's bad habits outside the ring to win a fight in the ring with him. Duran would kick his ass every time when they were both at their best.

    Napoles: He may get stopped on cuts. Napoles may outbox him for a portion of the fight, but soon, Duran would swarm all over him...

    Armstrong: Duran would outbox him. Armstrong was one of the greatest, but when he faced boxers, he had trouble. Duran, for a small man, he was a great boxer too.

    Benitez: Duran would swarm all over him. If the weaker Leonard could KD him with a jab, Duran would KO!! him!

    Griffith: Duran would have knocked him out. Emile may win many rounds on paper, but Duran would win the street fight, like Chavez Taylor. Emile was not a very hard hitter (Emile's punches were not chilling at all, my friends), but Duran would let him land the weak shots while Roberto rolls with them to lessenthe damage and Duran would pound him all night.

    Chavez: Duran would outbox him very VERY easily!

    Trinidad: He was there to be nailed. Duran by big knockout!

    De La Hoya: Duran by come from behind KO. De La Hoya would narrowly outbox him for 8 rounds. Oscar would tire, and Duran would catch him with big shots!

    Ted Kid Lewis: Duran by boxing lesson.

    Money May and Pacman: Duran KO's both big time!

    And Duran could have been number 2 welterweight. Leonard RUINED Duran, but because of cheating and setting him up. Duran said No Mas, true, but if one was cheating and one was being cheated, I rather would have been the one who quit.

    Duran and Robinson are the 2 greatest welterweights of all time.
     
  3. tommythomas3

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    I agree!
     
  4. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    ^^^^^^^^^^


    :patsch @ 'Duranimal' setting up another account to slurp Duran off. Because his unadulterated man love for Duran can no longer be contained to a single account.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    There's a few I'd favour to beat him but on his night Duran can beat almost anyone.

    I'm taking Robinson and Hearns to beat him.i think it's a toss up with Whittaker as well.
     
  6. mcvey

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    I think your choices are good but I don't see Trinidad or Walcott doing a Hearns on Duran.Tommy had that huge reach, and height,which meant he could bomb Duran at distance,power alone isnt enough to beat him as Cuevas proved.
    I won't say they beat him but I would give the following excellent chances
    Charley Burley,Ted Kid Lewis,Billy Petrolle,Carmen Basilio,Jimmy Mclarnin.If he could keep off the ropes and avoid the mugging Ray fell for Barney Ross might do a Viruet on Duran.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    reminds me of someone here who constantly slurps Leonard off

    Duran beat Leonard comfortably that night. Duran was in superb shape that night (not like Orleans). What's more, any rounds Leonard won, are only becuz Duran was coasting, and thereby ALLOWING Leonard to catch up (at a somewhat slower pace)

    Often times thru out, we saw Duran socking then rocking Leonard. Round two was especially bad for him. He tried to brush it off during an interview by saying "but you see....Duran caught me COLD!" says the egotistical maniac who escaped from the zoo

    as if Duran shouldnt get credit for it

    Did Fireball Rodriguez & Dick Eklund also catch him cold? geraldo? You'd think he would learn his lesson to warm up to protect that fragile chin of his!

    :lol: You don't care for my comments? TOO BAD! I walk where I will but not to worry, I tell only the truth
     
  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Burely was NOTHING!

    Robinson, Napoles and that's it. maybe Hearns becuz his height N reach
     
  9. Sardu

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    I love this post because Duran is my all-time favorite fighter. Great point especially about the difference between Duran hypothetically facing Hearns in 1980 as opposed to 1984. Hearns was at his absolute peak in 1984 when he destroyed Duran. In 1980, before Duran became dissolute from non-stop partying, etc. he was still razor-sharp. Hearns was still developing physically and was not yet at his peak. In 1989, Duran edged a grueling war with Iran Barkley who had sparked Hearns out the year before. In 1992, Barkley defeated Hearns again to prove his first win wasn't a fluke.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    I really struggle to envision Duran ever beating Hearns tbh.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    Hard to say, Hearns had a bit of a glass jaw and the Duran who fought Barkley and dropped him near the end of the fight may very well have done the same to Hearns.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Getting inside against Hearns is very difficult.

    Barkley managed it the second time because he had a mental edge. Hacker managed it because he walked through armageddon to get there.

    Who else rewllyworked their way inside?
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    I assume Haker is Hagler and I agree it's no easy assignment and as mentioned I would pick Hearns to win, but if Duran were to find a way to win, that would have to be how. SRL also knocked out Hearns btw.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Some of this is funny, sorry mate.

    Duran eats himself out of shape and it's Leonard's fault?

    Duran ruined Duran,no one else.


    Leonard was a cheat?
    Who won the lightweight title by punching Buchanan in the nuts?
    Benitez comprehensively out boxed Duran at light middle why would it be any different at Welter, 5lbs more?
    Duran kos Griffith ? Never in a million years!

    Prior to winning the title from Leonard ,Duran had 8 fights at the weight 4 of them went the distance, he wasn't a big banger at 147lbs

    Which boxers gave Armstrong trouble?:huh Barney Ross ? Petey Sarron?Sammy Angott ?Tippy Larkin? Ernie Roderick?

    It was Duran whom boxers gave trouble to,
    Kirkland Laing,EdwinViruet,Adolfo Viruet,Saul Mamby,Luis Minchillo,Benitez,Leonard,Zeferino Gonzalez,Nino Gonzalez,and quite a few more.

    Duran kos Mayweather at welter? Good luck with that.

    Duran's resume at 147 does not deserve him being rated in the top 10 at welter let alone the second greatest of all time.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah damn windows phone.

    If Duran gets inside where Hearns can't leverage his punches and if he can stay in the pocket all fight long,never leaving himself at mid range, then yes I can see him winning because he's a better in fighter, not durable, a better shot selector, better timing and better defence, plus he will have quicker better leveraged shots.

    However I don't see Duran managing to always work his way inside and keep himself inside of trouble.

    It is interesting though and if ever it would be to happen it would be in 1980.