The British Boxing Forum's 'What if?' Thread

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Vano-Irons, Sep 13, 2011.


  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :good

    We might have seen some of the fights that have happened, but I feel Froch would be on the outer, Kessler would be the European in with a hunt, rather than both.

    Bute would probably have been beaten by now too.

    I think Benitez would always be a hard night for Duran, (and vice versa) whoever was most focused on the night would win.

    No :lol::good

    Things would have been the same!
     
  2. DrMo

    DrMo Team GB Full Member

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    What if Beeston could appreciate the ring craft & artistry of Floyd?
     
  3. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I like the Sutherland part of this (i've said my bit on the other questions already). Jeffries would have been in with him by now certainly. Degale-Groves-Sutherland-Smith-Anderson, not a bad demestic scene
     
  4. Flea Man

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    I'll appreciate it when he proves itagainst sufficient calibre of opponent.
     
  5. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I've got another one. What if.....Tommy Hearns didnt break his right hand on the top of Hagler's head?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s--I8BsgDU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s--I8BsgDU[/ame]

    You can see from just 15 seconds in Tommy stuns Hagler with the right and throws a few uppercuts which again gets his attention. From the 1 minute mark, however, he starts to flick the right rather than throw it with the ferocity he did previously. When this happens, its just a matter of time before Hagler puts him away as Tommy doesnt have the right hand to keep him off. But, say he didnt break his hand early? Would it have still been an early night for Hearns? Or would Tommy have again hurt Hagler, forcing him to change his gameplane? It wouldnt be a slugfest, instead it may have turned into a boxing fest, which Tommy would have won IMO (long jab to keep Hagler off). Who knows, with the right, Hagler may have met the canvas early! Suddendly, Hearns is top 25 ATG?
     
  6. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I've no idea.... I'm not sure any fighter could have dealt with Hagler in that kind of form to be honest.

    Hearns maybe should have known that Hagler could take his punches and fought accordingly, but when you've a man possessed on your chest from the first bell there's little choice but to plant the feet and swing.

    I love one of his facial expressions when Hagler is on his chest and he's landed three rights in a row and they've done nothing, as if to say ''most people are usually dead by now.....''
     
  7. GazOC

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    It would have been interesting if Hearns' hand had of held up. Even if he couldn't stop Hagler he needed to be able to keep him "honest" on the way forward. Once his hand broke and he'd lost that ability the fight was over.
     
  8. DrMo

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    I think Hearns had lost that fight before he ever stepped into the ring, he had the wrong gameplan & still hadnt learnt to clinch & survive when hurt.

    Had he tried to stay outside & box he might have won, instead, as he said he would in the build-up he tried to put away Hagler early & trade with him from the opening bell.
     
  9. GazOC

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    Even staying on the outside he had to to able to stop Hagler taking this **** every now and again.

    Very overrated fight IMHO.
     
  10. Vano-Irons

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    TBH, i'm not sure there is anyone in MW history that could have just 'boxed' Hagler that night. The jab and move tactics would have only worked once Hearns had his attention (which happened only once in the first 20 seconds). I know the term is used too often, but Hagler was a ****ing beast that night!
     
  11. DrMo

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    Hagler at his peak:deal

    Best case scenario: Tommy doesnt **** off Marvin in the build-up & get him angry then stays on the back foot & doesnt break his hand. Even then its a tough task but it would be a more competitive contest.
     
  12. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    what if Cus D'Amato had been 10 or 15 years younger when he met iron mike?
     
  13. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    zero chance mate!
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I think Beeston appreciates Floyd as much as he deserves to be appreciated.
     
  15. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    What if boxing fans weren't so stupid and gullible enough to believe every excuse that Roberto Duran pulls out of his fat arse? Would they still claim that he was underprepared and not motivated when he just happened to be fighting the best fighters that he had ever fought?