The Brockton Bomber vs The Bronze Bomber

Exactly the same as the 50's then!

 

Marciano fought 34 of 49 guys with winning records.
Wilder 31 of 43.
7 of Marciano's kos were over men 180lbs or under.
Marciano's 49 opponents have a total of 535 losses between them.
Wilder's 43 , 226.

 

There is literally nothing special about Rex Layne whatsoever, other than perhaps his grit and toughness.

Ortiz is a big southpaw with very good counter-punching abilities and power. He has great fundamentals and technique. His lack of speed hurt him against Wilder but wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue against a man like Rex Layne, who would be well within his punching range for the whole fight (for as long as it lasts, anyway). Ortiz is slow but you are describing a caricature that has little resemblance to the real fighter.

Layne versus someone like Bryant Jennings (who Ortiz manhandled) would be a lot more interesting imo.

 

Wilder has fought only four men ranked in the top ten, and two of them took him the distance.

You really don't want to start picking holes in peoples opposition when you are arguing the case for Wilder!

 

I can see the parallels.

Except for that I'd make a case that Moore, Charles and Walcott looked a bit better than Chisora, Charr, Pulev and company.

 

I'm not arguing the case for Wilder, I don't think much of him ,but I do think he leaves Marciano face first on the canvas.
As I've said many times ,ranked contenders in one era are not comparable to another era so those stats are totally meaningless.Take a look at the amount of losses Marciano's opponents have 535 and compare them to Wilders then tell me Rocky fought great opposition.

 

All were past prime.

Neither Chisora nor Charr are in the June Ring ratings [my last Ring magazine,] which are
1.Fury
2.Wilder
3.Ruiz
4.Joshua
5.Whyte
6.Ortiz
7.Povetkin
8.Parker.
9.Kownacki
10.Pulev
I'm confident that ten stack up very favourably to any of the top ten in Marciano's reign as champion,which included the following names;
Dunlap
Williams
Neuhaus
Cokkell
Sys
Bucceroni
Wallace
Norkus
Slade
Johnson
Holman
Harrison
Jackson

 

I am very confident in saying that he fought better opposition than Wilder.

Even if you think that Stiverne and Ortiz are the bees knees, they are just two top fighters in an ocean of mediocrity.

 

Hopefully not too much time or Wilder will be as old as his recent opponents.

 

I don't think much of either, and you won't find any post of mine saying otherwise Mr Testy.
Charles , Walcott,and Moore were just 3 older past prime fighters, two of whom were better at LHVy hanging on because the new crop were poor to average.
Similar to all the mediocre ex champs who were still around when Louis came on the scene, and then subsequently eliminated them.

 

Want to compare the age of Wilders challengers with Marciano's?

 

When wishing to sail the Sea of Mediocrity, set your sextant for ancient journeymen, past their pull date lightheavies, and sloppy doughboys like Layne.

 

Guys avoid losses like the plague now adays. They don’t take on any tough opposition or any threat of a loss till they can get a shot. Because record is everything. Hence we have three champions with one loss between them and their all afraid to fight each other. Speaks more ill of the era

 

Go for it.

 

Take a look at the quality of the guys those opponents were losing to.