The Brockton Bomber vs The Bronze Bomber

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Nov 23, 2019.



Who wins

  1. Marciano by Knockout

  2. Marciano by Decision

  3. Wilder by Knockout

  4. Wilder by decision

  5. Draw

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    leave it to the imagination

    agree to disagree
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ortiz x2
    Stiverne x2
    Breazeale.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt any of these were better than Walcott or Moore
     
  4. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pick another sport......or maybe watch a fight ........Wilder ko'ed Ortiz up close with a uppercut in the first fight.........both times he floored Fury it was up close......Wilder does not need leverage, he can ko you up close or long range.......the Polish sausage was put into the hospital by a quick right mid range.................you dont KO or knock down EVERY SINGLE FIGHTER you meet in the Ring with out god given talent and skill......Wilders skill set is to put your lights out and he delivers...........this so called defense genius Tyson Fury who your god WK could not put a glove on was put on his azz twice and literally saved by the ref..........so what is it if Wilder is such a bum how come he is so successful ?

    Who is the new boogeyman now.....the never was Russian Hype job Povetkin or that punchbag Whyte who went life and death with local clubfighter Chisora......the tame samoan ?.........AJ has been exposed as a feeble frontrunner who crumbled the moment he left his protected island and showed he got a lot of quit in him.........the only two interesting fights for Wilder are Tyson Fluffy and Ruiz, thats it, all the other are foregone conclusions.

    Back to Marciano.....there are no intangibles no matter how much grit or will power /heart he has........Gatti and Corrales had plenty of it too but were beat from pillar to post by FMJ..........Marciano has only ONE gear, come to your wheel house and swing, that worked against the washed up Oldtimers he fought because their legs gave out and his youth prevailed while making him bleed in the process but coming straight at Lewis/Foreman/Tyson/Bowe/Wilder etc is a recipe to get put out cold when you are 5'9 and 185 pounds...end of
     
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  5. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    floyd one of the best and a proven one when he beat gatti quit comparing wilder to floyd . thats your first mistake

    secondly i agree with tyson, bowe and lewis knocking rocky the tf out clearly they had skills and defenses to avoid rocky and beat his ass

    wilder is not in the same league as those guys , leaves himself more open

    your two mistakes were
    comparing wilder to floyd , evander , lewis , and bowe

    thus irrelevant
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Through six rounds wilder threw 115 punches and Ortiz 144 painfully slow punches. How’s Wilder gonna take a work rate of more then double that? Does he keep up? Can he?
    not for nothing Those guys aren’t really punchers. You can’t knock out nobody’s in 6-8 round fights and be called a power puncher. As these guys faced better competition they had very average power.
     
  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off he was the same size as Tyson. And Marciano knocker our just about everyone he met he gets no credit?
     
  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    ortiz was the only one
     
  9. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take your Bruce Lee poster down............Tyson was taller and significantly more muscular than Marciano.......when Marciano retired he looked like a stuffed pig at 235 while a washed up tyson still looked ripped at the same weight when he fought Lewis......watch the bagwork McVey posted earlier of the Midget and then compare that to a prime Tyson bag work...the difference is mind boggling.
     
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  10. Flash24

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    Marciano's skill level was slightly better than what Wilder's are. But not enough too overcome the extreme physical advantages Wilder would have in , height , weight, reach, and athleticism. But any good/ great counter puncher in boxing history over 200 lbs with average heavyweight height would absolutely destroy Wilder.
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Talking about bag work? Lmao that’s comparable to a real fight? Wilder can’t throw more then 15 punches a round and he’s supposed to be this great athlete. He’d be winded and destroyed quickly. Not even in the same league. Tyson’s a whole other animal whom had his own problems. Ortiz looked like he was stuck in glue the whole night. These guys are nothing but fat bums hence the reason a 45 year old Foreman came back and won the title. Boxing in the HW division has been an absolute joke since Lewis left. Nothing but over grown bums. By the way there were fat bums in Marciano’s day they just weren’t good enough to sniff a title.
     
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  12. Seamus

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    Pin a medal on this man's chest.
     
  13. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    lol dude comparing lewis bowe and tyson to wilder lol
     
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  14. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    i found your rythym you are a wilder gobbler
     
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  15. Seamus

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    Wilder has already blown by Bowe in terms of accomplishments.