The Brown Bomber vs Big George.

Oh come one mate, if there was one thing Louis could do it was fight offensively. He was one of the very best proper and complete punchers of all-time, p-f-p too....that chin was dodgy nevertheless. :good

 

Yes lets say he carried his power up to cruiserweight then. Say that Louis got knocked down by say David Haye while slightly off ballence.

Henry Cooper was a cruiserweight and he subjected Muhamad Ali to a much more serious knockdown.

 

My point being that Foster generally had to hit much bigger men when he stepped up. Of course, a Cooper-type could get the odd huge punch and deck a top calibre opponent but he wouldn't (and didn't) do it consistently against much bigger and stronger men at the highest level.

 

What talent exactly?

The talent to let your jab hang down or kissing the canvass?

 

I could name a few cruisers who did consistently decked the heavyweights and even superheavys.

I guess Louis himself was a cruiser when he fought Braddock so he is excused for being knocked down.

When his body weight went over the 200lb mark he sudenly became a heavyweight monster and started demolishing the likes of Buddy Baer and Abe Simon who would have stamped on the cruiserweight Louis.

 

indeed.:yep

 

Louis didnt overtrain for the first Conn fight he was sensitive that Conn,really a big middleweight would be conceding poundage ,{Conn actually weighed 169 for the fight],so Louis resolved to come in under 200lbs which he did,{199 1/2],he acheived this by drying out and taking no liquids,Joe said he felt like **** when he got into the ring and his less than stellar performance reflected it.

 

He was early on in his career as a light heavyweight, he had a great right hand which accounted for many early round KO's, which once he broke it and couldnt afford to get it fixed (in the midst of the wall street crash which hugely affected him), meant he could barely use it and then preceded to go on a run of something like 28 wins and 23 losses

 

Louis didnt overtrain for the first Conn fight he was sensitive that Conn,really a big middleweight would be conceding poundage ,{Conn actually weighed 169 for the fight],so Louis resolved to come in under 200lbs which he did,{199 1/2],he acheived this by drying out and taking no liquids,Joe said he felt like **** when he got into the ring and his less than stellar performance reflected it.

 

Good post Braddock was a known puncher at LH and a respectable one at Heavy he could bang a bit with his right but hand injuries hampered him.

 

Top comedian! I laughed tears. :rofl

 

Oops, i meant ATG top 10 fighters who also had a punch.

 

Even if so there is a cavernous gap between the class level of Foreman and Baer.

 

Foreman had a solid foundation, but his one stand-out feature in this match-up would only take him through more hell. Ted Spoon has estimated that there is a 87.789% chance George would lose.

Joe Frazier simply marched into the tornado, and Ken Norton did not have the tools to diffuse the tornado…

Joe Louis had the crunching counters, conventional defensive ability, but most importantly, that icy composure to shuffle near Foreman and keep him in stylistic limbo, not sure whether to be a tornado or a measured, ‘Jimmy Young-like’ breeze.

Louis would stop a Foreman advance with a crunching counter, stare at him, and keep him doubting himself. Short punches would blast the chin that took a step too close, and well-locked elbows and arms would pick off the wild ones. He'd force him into making mistakes and then punish whenever he could with both hands as he shuffled closer to his degenerating foe.

When Max Bear took a knee against Louis it was a, later self-admitted, waving of the white flag. Similarly, Foreman would find himself in between a ring and Joe Louis with nowhere to go but down.

 

Nice rainbow-journalism.