The Brown Bomber vs Big George.

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  1. The Kurgan

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    In other words, you agree he wasn't much of a one-punch knockout artist. Foreman's chances of landing a lucky home-run bomb against Louis are neglible, since no-one ever knocked out Louis with one shot.

    Then again, let's not assume Foreman's going to be able to land any big bombs on Louis. The chances are this one won't be long, and Louis is going to be the one landing the combinations.

    I suppose people just think that getting up to win is more impressive than getting starched in the first round. :good
     
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  2. KTFO

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    Louis too robotic and limited. Foreman KO4 Louis
     
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  3. The Kurgan

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    Be more speicifc. What is limiting Louis here- his faster hands, better counter-punching skills, superior variety of punches, better combinations, better defense, better stamina or his better punching technique?
     
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  4. KTFO

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    limiting: robotic style,easy to hit,a good jab doesn't stop Big George

    George would floor him 4 times before they would carry Louis out on a stretcher.
     
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  5. My dinner with Conteh

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    Of course. But every fighter who visits the canvas is apparently 'exposed'... unless it was Louis.
     
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  6. My dinner with Conteh

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    His paper chin. Specific enough?
     
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  7. janitor

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    If Louis is robotic and easy to hit then you are going to have to invent some new superlatives to describe Foreman.
     
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  8. janitor

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    Its funny that you describe Louis as having a paper chin because he was never droped by sombody like Jimmy Young or even Muhamad Ali.

    All the fighters who droped Louis were bona fide punchers.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Yeah, probably. He was also much,much,much,much easier to hit.


    Conn never dropped Louis. What's your point?


    Foreman probably kept his feet better, Louis' power of recuperation would be better though. Louis fought a couple of rounds against Schmeling (Who hit hard enough to stop an opponents heart) whilst basically unconcsious.


    What is it with the Conn fixation? He would be the lightest puncher that Louis ever fought! Yes, Schmeling's hardest shots would be harder than Ali's and Young's.

    Yes.

    Foreman is well behind Louis in terms of stamina, but I think you mean durabilty...

    ...because of this.
     
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  11. Street Lethal

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    I picked Foreman inside of 7 rounds. He was big and powerful, his punches were accurate, and he could take a hell of a shot. Louis was a great on offense but weak on defense, and where his head would be is right where Foreman's punches would land. Louis couldn't take Foreman's shots.

    If Louis can get past the tenth round, assuming he's fighting the young Foreman, he might have a chance to go the distance. But I think the beating he takes early on will make it difficult to overcome Foreman's lead.
     
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  12. KTFO

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    I can't believe that Louis ahead in this fookin poll by KO on Foreman. :patsch
     
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  13. KTFO

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    Do you guys really think Louis would pull an Ali? You really do? OMG,you really do. :silly
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Proffesional fighters always hurt each other when they hit. Otherwise it would not be possible for fighters like Loughran and Conn to be all time great fighters and undeniablely dominant champions at light-heavy.


    Yeah, Joe went down. Then got back up again. The point that Louis is more vulnerable than Foreman in terms of chin is accepted.

    Lyle dropped him.

    He is not fighting Conn. He is fighting Louis. In composite terms he may be the best puncher the sport has ever seen.

    No-one has tried to say that Conn is a hard puncher. All the guys you have mentioned were harder punchers than him. What Conn was, was a master boxer who feared no-one.
     
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