The Brown Bomber vs Big George.

Gallento is a bad analogy. He was a verry short heavyweight who fought out of a crouch which is a style that always troubled Louis (see Godoy I). He also did some work on the inside.

Foreman is more of a stand up long range slugger in the mould of Max Baer. The kind of fighter Louis feasted on and did exactly what we have described against.

 

I agree with your analysis of Galento being an out of shape street fighter as opposed to being a true world class contender. I disagree, however that Louis's poor performance against Galento should be used as a measure when comparing him to Foreman. I would rather use the Max Baer and Buddy Baer fights to draw my conclusions than just one lackluster performance against a pretender.

Max and Buddy were not exactly in the same class as Foreman in my opinion, but they bore far more similarities to George than Galento did. Both Guys were well over 6 feet tall, and Buddy was on average, 245 Lbs at 6'61/2. Both guys hit like trucks, and from what I understand used similar tactics ( again I feel George was better ). Nevertheless, Louis typically destroyed these types of fighters. The problem with fighters like George, Buddy and Max, is that they left themselves open, and were often made to pay for their offensive mistakes.

This is not to say that Louis would beat Foreman, nor that I would even pick him, but I'd prefer to make my preditions based on Louis's performance against the Baer bros. Rather than Galento or anyone else.

 

Neither fighter exhibited anything close to special in terms of defensive prowess in their primes, let's be honest; both are susceptible of getting hit from time to time. However, Only one of these men established a reputation of being an inaccurate slob in the ring: Big George. It's laughable to me how some here claim that he was somehow efficient with his punching technique when he hopelessly was not.

It's true, sooner or later Louis may be liable to get caught with a lucky bomb, but it is my opinion that if he should find his feet, he would face minimum follow-through from George.

Here, I thought it best to illustrate the scenario with the use of youtube:

George Foreman vs Luis Faustino Pires 1971
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xx9fZrt7tA

See?

Oh man, I crack up everytime I see this. Pay close attention at around 1:14 for pure comedy

 

I've never seen either of his two fights with Buddy Baer either, although Buddy From what I understand, was similar to both Max and Foreman. I'll check youtube to see if these fights are available. Apparently, Buddy Floored Louis in the first match, but fell victom to Joe in only one round in the second fight.

 

In the event that George does floor Joe Louis, I believe it would be very temporary (provided it is just the one shot that I am imagining and not a sustained beatdown, which I cannot see George dish out anyway).

When he gets up it'll be the same old story, operating inside those wild, clubbing blows, disrupting the momentum before they hit their mark. Now, George might have the chin to survive this (I personally don't believe so), but after maybe the 9th or the 10th it won't matter.

 

If you want to see Louis look bad watch him against a fighter who uses a low crouch and aplies inside pressure like Godoy or Gallento.

Wan't another fighter who is not an all time great who would make him look bad?

George Chuvalo.

If you want to see Louis look unbeatable then watch him against a big hitter who trades with him at range like Max Baer, Lou Nova or Buddy Baer.

 

I just started a thread entitled B. Baer compared to G Foreman. I posted youtube links with footage of both. If you get time check it out, and maybe we'll even get a discussion going :good

 

I don't give a **** if he knocked out 100 light heavyweights. It's funny, my original post mentioned that "he may have hit hard at light heavy" and I was curious to which Einstein would say something like you have above.

 

Braddock could hit. He was a wrecking machine at light heavy and even at heavyweight he scored a good few knockouts in the first two rounds despite chronic hand problems.