The Calzaghe that fought Lacy VS The Hopkins that fought Tito: Who Wins?

Run quicker? :rofl:rofl

Only kidding, hops fought a good economical fight but was out on his feet when he took his break for the low blow.

Remember that calzaghe is not a pressure fighter and prefers to counter.
A fight with more energy and pace from Hopkins suits Calzaghe.
Hopkins would look equally bad trying to pressure calzaghe with calzaghe countering a la hopkins.

 

Cmon, I'm not a real fan of either boxer and I was pleased that Joe won, being a Brit, but even he says he wasn't very good on the night.

For me as annoying as a lot of his tactics were (and I was screaming at the TV at times) Bernard showed the far better boxing skills, even at 43(that is old) for a boxer.


If Bernard throws a few more punches per round he wins by Ud, its that close.


No round was dominated apart from the first 3 by Hopkins and the KO. Most the others could have easly gone either way.

 

So Calzaghe beats a prime Hopkins because prime Hopkins has more energy? Don't you think a prime Hopkins would figure out the right tactics to use? All he needed was a tiny bit more energy even at 43. He was absolutely knackered and still lots of people think he won the fight. And couldn't I equally say that a "prime" Calzaghe would probably use the wrong tactics? Rush in carelessly etc?

This is getting ridiculous. Before the fight Calzaghe's fans were saying Calzaghe was going to destroy BHop, that he fights once a year against middleweights and that he's really old. After Hopkins lost a SD you'd think they'd just be happy their man managed to win but instead we get silly arguments that Calzaghe beats a prime Hopkins.

 

Hopkins by close UD. Calzaghe's output would still be reduced by Bernard's defense, while Hopkins would have still had the firepower and stamina to effectively exploit Joe's defensive flaws.

 

Who cares! :nut

 

Err...people who like boxing?

 

So prime hopkins is still on his bike in your assertion? just he is not running out of gas late on, and calzaghe is rushing in stupidly?

My point on this fight, past prime vs past prime is that hopkins had all the advantages in his favour the way the fight panned out yet still lost.
I dont think that prime hopkins is a great workhorse of a fighter. So I dont think the prime vs prime match up is as silly as you would think.

Hopkins ringcraft and smarts were figured out by calzaghe who won by 2 imo, we all know that calzaghe likes a couple of rounds to look at an opponent then adjusts, so far he has beaten everyone he has faced I dont think its silly that he beats a prime hopkins.

 

bhop

 

Exactly you don't like the idea that a prime Calzaghe would pick the wrong tactics yet the Calzaghe fans' argument is based on the hope that Hopkins would fight differently. All he needed to do to win the fight last week clearly was be a little bit more active. Hell, with different judges he could have won the SD.

 

I see what your saying but as I stated joe adjusts well, if the fight is going like it was in the first few rounds joe finds a way to change it. I think he can adapt again and find a way to win. Hopkins in the mid to later rounds knew it was close and he was going behind so he had to try to produce more to win the rounds. Hopkins of the first 3 rounds is very different from the last 6 rounds, when he became more active joe was finding him better. If hopkins does not have an early lead (very likely considering even prime hopkins is a slow starter) and he has to come forward more or is forced to trade a little more I still have joe in front.

Its all if's and buts though :tired

 

Hopkins. Puts him on his ass like he did and Brewer did back in his prime. Calzaghe still has bull**** basic in and out ring movement that is easily timed as Bhop timed him on his first lunge at age 43. Go back to the basics of boxing.

 

I cant believe that anyone would say Calzaghe. However apparently I'm in the minority.

 

:huh
charles brewer put calzaghe on his ass.

when was this.

the fight i saw , calzaghe put a real beating on brewer.


you must have incorperated brewer decking calzaghe into a dream you had and now beleive it really took place.

 

I ask gain detractors, since we are talking hypotheticals, If Calz. hands were healthy, how would that have changed the outcome of Sat. nights fight vs. Hopkins?? His hands have been **** for years and he beat Hopkins with those hands. What about his old lady hands, the most past their prime hands in boxing? Comments please!!