The Case Against Joe Calzaghe

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    good article but i think you have sold Kessler short and completly focused on the negatives.

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  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    See the other thread

    the case for joe calzaghe :good
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh just saw it, makes sense now but you did sell Kessler and Gimenez short
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I 'big em up' in the other thread though.
     
  6. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would not blame this on Joe Calzaghe.... he wanted the best for a long time....:yep
    He only got to fight what was served in front of him......they were never gonna roll the dice IMO...:scaredas:
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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  8. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe was different, he got better with age. The lightly regarded WBO title at 168lbs has the best history of the lot, including Thomas Hearns, Chris Eubank, Steve Collins and Joe Calzaghe. Around that time the WBC title was held by some "paper" champions and the IBF and WBA were held by Ottke. Watch some of the Ottke fights, the ones he should have really lost, there are plenty of them. Calzaghe was the man. Ottke wouldn't have won outside of Germany and would have lost in Germany if the referees were unbiased against his defensive style.
     
  9. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Good read you better be nice about Jeff in the other thread :lol:
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I'm always nice to Jeff :good
     
  11. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    This is close to the truth but alzaghe did prove his lack of greatness scraping through against Hopkins and failing to make any impression on Jones. His failiure to stop any fighter of notable form is also damning even Pernell Whitiker banged a couple of decent fighters out.
     
  12. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many so called great fighters has Hopkins beaten that had to be scrapped off the canvas? He lost to Calzaghe, whilst beating the likes of Trinidad, De La Hoya, Pavlik and Tarver. I don't think anyone would beat Hopkins really convincingly.
     
  13. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    What way did you score the fight Hoya?
     
  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Scored it 114-113 Hopkins, I believe.

    I don't have a problem with people scoring it one point either way though.
     
  15. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Yeah i had it 114-113 Joe hard fight to score