The case for Lennox Lewis being GOAT

I don't give a toss if it ever has a decent heavyweight again. But I do know he'll weight more than 185 pounds.

 

Thought you would. So much for killer Shavers, eh. :yep

 

I have noticed Dempsey is the one legend that appears to be going down and further down lists as the years go by. At last some sense.

 

I only used Ring magazine's list as an example. In the creation of that list, I would wager that there was more debate and thinking going on among more persons than in this particular post, and so it is a synthesis of knowledge. It certainly wasn't written "by a magazine" since no such thing exists.

I was a professional researcher of history for many years. I know the value in looking at all kinds of sources: primary, secondary, written, oral, graphic, etc.

Every source has a bias. I don't see the NYT as being overly nationalist any more than I see any self-selected sample as being primary. There is simply more boxing and the draw money are in the States.

 

I don't know. Where are some of those lists?

I would say that it's pretty popular to find fault with the legitimacy of various athletes when the matter of race integration was a factor in their social environment.

 

I never would have compared the two. Shavers had more than 80 pro fights, cooney I think around 30. Shavers should have punched a hole in his chest, but alas.

 

Yeah, I spent some time in London and saw a bunch of them passed out outside of the pubs.

Just give them some gloves and some bus money.

 

I was referring to some of their scorecards: Leonard over Duran, Antuofermo over Minter. Nah.

 

Sure. Still, those are pretty self-serving examples. But what you're talking about is a larger problem in boxing: ridiculous outcomes.

 

Never.

You have to weigh 183 lobs to fight at heavyweight today.

When will a cruiserweight step up to win a belt at heavyweight?

Posibly soon.

 

You need to get over your strategy of picking the outcomes of fights based on size difarential with zero analysis of styles.

It is not sound practice.

 

Well i know its abit premature buy david haye is going upto heavyweight after a fight with mormeck, i am not saying he is going to be amazing before anyone starts but with the state of the heavyweights and haye's power and speed it could happen for him.

 

Ironicaly if there is a British heavyweight titleholder in the next four years it probably will be sombody who started their career at cruiserweight.