the chin of jake lamotta against top hw punchers.

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  1. thegoldenera

    thegoldenera Guest

    could jake lamotta take a beating from foreman,louis,tyson,marciano,frazier.. without being knocked out by the count?
    of course i think that he would be hurt seriously, he would be stoped, but i think that he would not be ko by the count. this guy was a rock

    what do you think?:think
     
  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    In the movie, he was saddened he would never be able to fight Louis.

    I have a feeling there was some truth to those sentiments as it pertains to the real Lamotta.


    Something tells me he would have jumped on the opportunity if allowed, so I dont think fear was an issue.


    However is fought someone like Foreman, Louis, Frazier, Marciano, he would not survive the fight (imo)
     
  3. thegoldenera

    thegoldenera Guest

    by the count or not?
     
  4. Libertine

    Libertine Active Member Full Member

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    If he came it at about 180 pounds he prolly could.
     
  5. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    If Robinson could stop him, then Louis would kill him.
     
  6. Lobotomy

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    Robby stopped him only because he was weight drained, an admission Ray candidly admitted he was banking on. If Jake did not have to make weight, or was willing to have his title stripped at the scales in favor of a sixth non-title fight, they would have gone the distance yet again.

    LaMotta did knock out a future top heavyweight puncher in Satterfield (who Robinson specifically mentioned not wanting any part of when he laughed off the idea of trying for the heavyweight title if he got by Maxim), but I think he would have had a rough time with pre Baroudi Charles or Moore. Actually, I have reservations about his wartime chances against an active Zale, who would have bypassed his chin in favor of a body attack. In his era, it was typical for amateur light heavyweights to graduate to the professional big boys. Jake went the opposite direction. He had some idea of his limitations. I don't think he was afraid, but he also wasn't stupid. I can't buy him defeating Conn, Lesnevich, Mills or Maxim for the title at 175.
     
  7. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    What about his chin versus a prime Louis or Foreman strike? Does he take it or no?
     
  8. D.T

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    LaMotta won't even stand up to Byrd's punches.

    Sports Science measured Byrd's hardest punch at almost 1200lbs of force. The hardest-hitting Middleweight punch at a max of about 750-800.

    Byrd's a feather-fisted heavyweight.


    What does that telll you about LaMotta's chances of standing up to a Heavyweight's punches.
     
  9. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had the pleasure of sitting at a bar with Jake and his fiance drinking wine and eating cheese n onion crisps and talking boxing for about 2 hours - during which he told me personally the one fight he wished he could've had was against Joe Louis "just to see how it woulda gone...he wouldn'ta knocked me out!!"
     
  10. thegoldenera

    thegoldenera Guest

    :lol:
     
  11. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lamotta as a middleweight wouldn't be able to take Heavyweight Punches. He would be stopped by every single puncher you listed on there.

    Foreman, Liston, Tyson, Marciano, Louis, Frazier all KO him. But even a fighter like Brewster or Bonecrusher Smith would get the KO.
     
  12. thegoldenera

    thegoldenera Guest

    i think that it would be tko, not ko.
     
  13. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Knocked out cold by every one of them in the first three rounds. Only a TKO if the referee didn't want to count to ten, seeing him lying unconscious.
     
  14. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't figure out whether or not you're just a troll. That means props if you are.
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People like to mention Satterfield, but LaMotta was hurt or staggered at least twice during that bout, see the quotes from next-day report at boxrec wiki.