The chinny Lennox Lewis myth

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  1. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    some people seem to think Lewis's chin is glass whatever that means, which it pretty idiotic really. I'd call it a good chin personally. I think he had good survival skills as well which helped, he was buzzed a few times but his chin held out enough for him to ride it out, against some heavy hitters.

    I find the whole chin thing stupid anyway, some great fighters had average chins, does that make them lesser men? I think these arguments should be more about how a fighter survives and his mental fortitude to fight on. that's a true measure of greatness? a guy getting knocked out cold is just science, they have no control. Lewis proved that he had balls when hurt, the only way he was beaten was by science, mentally he would have fought on if he possibly could have. That's all that matters, its when a fighter gives up that shows you what they are made of. Look at Paul Williams, the only way to beat that man was to take it out of his hands, otherwise he was coming, hurt on not for 12 rounds. I admire that more than some lump with a granite chin.
     
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  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said no such thing though. I thought you claimed that getting KD more times is worse than getting stopped only 2 times. That I can't agree with. If you meant getting KD more times, while also then being stopped, then I agree with you. Seemed like you were arguing the former, not the later.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some people on here insist that since Lewis was stopped by one punch, that shows he has a bad chin and it's a negative on his record.

    But they don't share the same belief of heavyweights who were knocked down multiple times in fights before getting stopped.

    It makes no sense at all.

    If I mistook you for one of those guys, my apologies.
     
  4. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No, i don't, that doesn't make him a puncher though.
     
  5. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What does the fact that he beat every man he faced had to do with his china chin?
    He's a great fighter, atg hw. I don't rate patterson as an atg hw, so lewis is the king of china chin among atg hw.

    And let's not pretend mccall and rahman are elite punchers like tyson, foreman, shavers etc.... They sure look that way when they sparked lewis out, with a single punch, though.

    Love lewis dance when he got up on shaky legs from mccall punch, or when he didn't even try to beat the count after rahman starched him, and had a face like "what happened?" when he finally got up :D
     
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  6. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes had proven his recuperative powers against Shavers.

    Maybe the referee in the Snipes fight had that in the back of his mind.

    Anyway, I don't think he was as hurt against Snipes as Lewis was against McCall.
     
  7. Twisted_Metal

    Twisted_Metal Active Member Full Member

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    He certainly get knocked the fck out in those fights. He even said in post fight interview against Rachman that he wonder why the ref stopped the fight lol, just how badly Rachman shook his brain! Merchant was like WTF?:hum:

    When Lewis dropped Tyson, it was similar to how Rachman and Lewis put each others down, one flush punch to the chin but Tyson certainly still has full conciousness when he tried to get up. Only against Douglas he was still totally dazed but that was 3 clean punches landed.

    I agree Lewis chin is far from the worst but definetely one of the weakest among ATG. You cant argue since he was knocked out twice with a single punch in his very prime.
     
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  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis never retired at 39. Do the math. Lewis was born on September 2, 1965, his last fight was June 21, 2003. Means his last fight was BEFORE he turned 38. When Lewis turned 39, he was retired for more than a year.
     
  9. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was koed twice by single blows so of course his durability takes a hit. The reality is what the reality is. You just can't ignore it. One punch twice cause him to lose by ko. Far different than a flash knockdown where he gets up and continues and perhaps wins.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    It's spellbinding how many don't know the difference between a ko and a tko, and on a boxing forum no less :pancarta:
     
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  11. Mendoza

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    Pugilist_Spec posted information on this a while back.
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    It really is mind boggling how a certain individual keeps repeating that he was " KO'd Twice" when the whole stoppage of the first fight has been explained to him ad nauseam.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis retired in 2004. He held a widely covered press conference and announced his retirement. The belts he held became vacant at that time. My mistake if he was a few months short of his 39th birthday.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So if he got knocked down by Rahman, and he got up, and he got knocked down again, and he got up and then Rahman hit him with that last punch and he didn't get up, like Holmes against Tyson, that would prove Lewis had a better chin?

    Getting flattened three times PROVES you have a chin, and one knockdown PROVES you don't?

    That is complete nonsense.

    Two knockdowns in a hall of fame career ... and not going down against anyone else in any other fight ... not even in the rematches with the guys who dropped you ... proves nothing? Beating everyone you fought proves nothing?

    I will never understand that ridiculous line of thinking.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    I hear ya Goo, oh how i hear ya!