The chip on Floyd's shoulder - justified?

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I think what you have at the core of Mayweather is a huge chip on his shoulder from early days where he probably was told he wasn't good enough by his father.

    I think his olympic result and such forged a fire in him about being the best and when he did so much at 130 and 135 to prove it, I guess he felt he was due more credit than he's received at 140-147.

    Of course, it just gets worse and worse, people don't expect him to lose, so discredit those he fights, when he wins, they find a reason to discredit it which means going out for legacy makes limited sense if there isn't big finance behind it - cause afterall, Margarito/Mosley/Williams are all bums if Floyd beats them - yet who would really say "Wow, good on you Floyd for taking the step up but losing" against say Pavlik?
     
  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We'll find out if he ever takes that step up, i.e. we won't find out.


    The chip on his shoulder is because he's an *******. He talks bigger then he delivers. It's plain and simple. If he wasn't such a braggadocios *******, people would be kinder to him.
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Could be.....a lot has to do with how you grow up and the enviornment around you. It molds and shapes you as an adult. But all the unfair critisim from boxing "fans" are just that....Unfair, at least for the most part. But that all comes with being the best. Look and Manny. Everything he accomplishes in this sport there is a reason for why he's doing the amazing things he does. Leonard had the same problems, so did Robinson and Ali. If you are considered the man, people pray for your downfall.
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I definitely think his personality is most of the reason people have the attitude toward him, but I also think he gets a bit of a hard wrap considering the ODLH fight wasn't that easy for him and he was moving up to a weight he'd never fought at, with no hydration cause like Pac, etcetera.

    The guy has beaten names in every division he's been in, he has one of the most infallible techniques in the history of the game, yet all we hear year after year is how Hatton, Judah, ODLH, Pacquaio, Mosley, Williams, Cotto will beat him. When he beats one of those fighters, he gets absolutely no credit for it.
     
  5. Deebo

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    I'd say so. Only because once you've been dubbed the P4P undisputed that pretty much means you're regarded as the baddest mother****er out there. And P4P guys will always consider themselves P4P, regardless of whether someone else holds that title later.
     
  6. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I'm just waiting for the inevitable "Pac was too small" against Floyd when Floyd beats him, they did it with JMM when there was NOTHING in that fight that indicated size was an issue, Floyd was just too superior in technique and timing for JMM to do anything against.

    Suddenly, JMM becomes shot and a bum, despite being a guy who arguably has two over Pacquaio.
     
  7. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    A bum? Who said that?

    JMM is old and shot but he is nothing near a BUM and never has been and never will be.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    noone said JMM is a bum, people just said that he was not made for 147. They said that before and after. **** even at the catchweight people said JMM was too small. You are trying to make it look like people are taking away credit from Floyd in retrospect but thats not true at all.
     
  9. yyyy1313

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    Well the JMM there is no evidence to show he could hang at the weight he fought Floyd in, two alot of people felt he was over reaching. These people were already making note of his slow down moving up at weight at 135 and you expect him to be as good at 147?

    As far as Pac goes, one we have evidence he can hang at 147. We also know that he took out Cotto who many felt was one of the best fighters in the division. Many people have noted that Pacquaio at 147 has lost little to no speed and in some peoples mind feel as if he has gained power.

    I can see where you try to make the parallel between pac and jmm, in this case it's fails for one obvious reason: 1.) we have proof that pac can hang at the weight (going by his match with Cotto), while we had no proof how jmm would have done at the weight in which he fought money may.

    With all that said I will not be one of the naysayers discrediting money may if he beats pac. If anything I will praise him because in my mind and I believe most people on here feel as if pac is the best challenge out there for money may. Exception? Maybe Sugar Shane?
     
  10. motownhitman

    motownhitman New Member Full Member

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    Floyd is a pretty complex person. I think he has created a certain image which has garnered him big money fights but a lack of respect at the same time. I do not have any issue with the brand in which Floyd has created because after all his brand has made him millions whereas other fighters with tons of talent have not found the level of financial success that Floyd has. The issue Floyd, rather pundits have is that often times his talent is overlooked by his boisterous personality. If Floyd wasn't such a huge talent he would not catch as much flack as he does, now on the other hand if he wasn't as boisterous he wouldn't be as rich.
     
  11. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Had Floyd been the go forward aggressor who just dominated JMM like he did against Gatti, I'd agree.

    Floyd was the counter puncher, who set traps and waited for JMM to fall into them. Size had nothing to play in that fight.
     
  12. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Judah would never beat him, he was ruined by Tszyu years ago. Hatton was at 140 when Floyd was as was Tszyu but Floyd moved to a weak Welter division as the 140 hotted up. Then he fought some dead guys like Mitchell, Zab and Baldomir clap clap.

    Then he moves up to 154 to fight Oscar.......now he is old and slower. He never wanted it at 147 when he was at 140 but now going up to 154 is ok? Good one. Gives a chance for the real Welters to bash the **** out of each other while he retires till it's over, only to fight a lightweight who is 35-36 moving up 2 weight classes etc

    I could go on and on but can't you see this **** for yourself?
     
  13. PH|LLA

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  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL:lol: The whole "Rehydration clause" conspiracy!:lol: See what I mean......the whole "being the man" comes with a price that is annoying yet expected. When PAC does things that eclipes anything that any other one of his peers has ever accomplished or had ever tried to accomplish he gets excuses to why he wins. Incredible!:rofl
     
  15. Drknowitall

    Drknowitall All Knowing Full Member

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    I will say this if I was as good a boxer as Floyd I would likely be even a bigger dick than he is. One thing Floyd has that most boxers never have is consistency. He is consistently excellent inside the ring and it doesnt matter what you say when you can perform at that level every time out.