The chip on Floyd's shoulder - justified?

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  1. Moth

    Moth Guest

    Floyd's boxing skills are truly amazing. I'd go as far to say that he is physically one of the most gifted boxers ever.

    In that respect, he absolutely should have a chip on his shoulder.


    However...

    He only fights boxers who bring in the absolute most money, who, in this case, are not the best fighters in the division. So, while he obviously possesses incredible skill, it's difficult to say if he's a great boxer because he's never applied himself to another great boxer.

    In that respect, I'd say that the SIZE of the chip on his shoulder is not justified.
     
  2. pare

    pare Active Member Full Member

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    agree.
    when floyd does the rope-a-dope, that tells you jmm was too small.
     
  3. IrnBruMan

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    A chip on someone's shoulder is never justified.
     
  4. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Imo, he should fight them. let history tell the story. Maybe then, he'll see the difference between beating somebody in an actual fight against saying "they doesn't deserve to fight me, because they're nobody's"
     
  5. kartog

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    What chip on his shoulder? That the f*ckin world doesn't appreciate his talents?

    Tell that to someone like Shane Langford, who lost one eye after getting busted up in the ring and living day to day in the streets until he got to Wild Card.

    The world knows he has exceptional talent, but having it and using it against top competition are two different things. If he is content to ride his résumé at 130-135 then by all means do so, but don't throw a ***** fit when the rest of the world don't exactly buy his con jobs.
     
  6. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Yeah, when floyd lays on the rope, marquez couldn't even reach his head even if floyd gives him a free punch
     
  7. charlievint

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    DLH was a "cherry picker" as well from fans of this sport. Look....Leonard was labeled a cherry picker yet he has all the biggest and baddest names from his era on his resume. IF that is a cherry picker then I guess that ain't too bad......Ray beat the men who were all considered the best in his day meaning he won all of his most important fights to secure the kind of legacy legends are made from. Floyd isn't on this level! His resume isn't close to anything Sugar Ray Leonard accomplished yet the skills and talent are on level with one anther. Floyd lacks substance with regards to his resume.
     
  8. boxing4eva

    boxing4eva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's the best boxer on the planet
     
  9. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not serious analysis...

    Size had everything to do with many facts about JMM-Mayweather :

    1- JMM is a natural counterpuncher himself, has been his entire career. The fact that his reach and size wasn't anywhere close to Floyd's, forced him out of his usual game and made him the aggressor by default.

    2- JMM showed that he lost some speed and snap in his punches by gaining the necessary weight to fight just below welterweight. Mayweather put on a clinic but it was easy to see that at 36, the big sudden step up in weight wasn't working for JMM. Other guys at 147 would have also played around with him like a doll..
     
  10. Pro

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    JMM has two arguments against Pac....that's why Manny wasn't so eager to do it a 3rd time.
     
  11. uglyandproud7

    uglyandproud7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  12. charlievint

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    Nah....look, JMM was the one who got a gift draw in their initial meeting and then wasn't eager to do it again with PAC until he was one of the key figures in the sport.....it took 4 yrs to get JMM back in the ring with PAC. When PAC beat JMM and got the correct decision the 2nd go round it was time to move on to bigger and better things....as you see right now with PAC recent accomplishments. JMM in a rubber match is interesting but unfortunate given JMM shouldn't fight at or above 140 and he's getting older, slower and loosing reflexes.
     
  13. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is ******ed. Floyd did the same thing to De La Hoya, was he too small? Yes, JMM was smaller and not at his best. He still got dominated mostly because he fought a better fighter, however.
     
  14. pare

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    it was around the 10th round that floyd lay on the ropes and let jmm bang on his body - that is the rope-a-dope. he LET jmm get good body shots with as much power as jmm could muster.

    as far as i remember, floyd did draw oscar to the ropes but used his shoulder rolls and arms to block the punches. tell me when he let oscar bang at him.
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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    Mayweather often goes to the ropes to try to make his opponent miss shots and expend energy, and look for counters (he doesn't counter often enough though IMO).

    It's not something new or rare. Sometimes he's forced there but other times it's by choice, as he's not trapped there, but simply goes back into a straight line to the ropes.