The Classic Boxing Myth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This was great. I never saw it before. I thought it was around 71 seconds of an interval, but they said 65 seconds. Myth exploded.
     
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  2. tommytheduke

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    Walcott lost 1st Louis fight. JJW felt Louis power 9th round, didn't like it and ran away the last 6 rounds.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Chavez deserved the nod against Whitaker. He won more rounds but not as emphatically as the rounds Pea won. A bit of a robbery of Julio. His streak should have continued.
     
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  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I believe that, joe was probably scaring a lot of fighters at that time
     
  5. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    That Marvin Hagler, when asked by the ring doctor whether he could still see after suffering the cut against Thomas Hearns, said "I'm hitting him, ain't I?"

    Bert Sugar loved repeating that one.
     
  6. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    That Roberto Duran said the actual words "No mas".
     
  7. Bujia

    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    “I’m not gonna fight this clown anymore.”

    Wasn’t it something like that in Spanish?
     
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  8. Bujia

    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    I’m capable of being swayed, buI’ve been thinking that some of these things are more scripture than science:

    -Archie Moore was a late bloomer who didn’t hit prime until his 30s

    More likely he just outlasted the better talents of the 40s. All at their best he didn’t separate himself from the Row the way Charles did. In fact he didn’t prove to be much more than middle of the pack. Still, I feel like a dick because it’s like I’m suggesting that longevity means nothing.
     
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  9. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    That Floyd Mayweather is 'TBE'
     
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  10. Bujia

    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    -Aaron Pryor was a flawed hype job who was always on the cusp of being knocked out

    LOL, how much more proven could his chin have been? He could be hurt, but nobody recovered quicker. His knockdowns were almost all down to just being caught off balance. A physically imposing power puncher could potentially be his undoing, or a brutal body puncher. But how many from 135-140 fit that criteria on top of having elite stamina and durability? I think he was a genuine paradox in the boxing ring during his brief but blazing run.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Biggs and Thomas were drug addicts leading into the Tyson fight.

    Cooney fought Spinks as a cash out fight (Cooney was favored).

    Canelo has robberies to his name.

    Ibeabuchi had ATG potential.

    Ruddock was shot for the Lewis fight.

    Mayweather was a cherry picker. (The only thing he cherry picked were the biggest purses.)

    Manny was shot for the Mayweather fight.
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    If he didn't take up crack smoking, it's likely that he would've moved to 147 and found out why defense matters.
     
  13. Bujia

    Bujia Active Member Full Member

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    Well, yeah, most likely. I’m not defending his potential at Welterweight. Just the ability he showed from 135-140.

    He wasn’t even a big 135. Certainly not a big 140. He wasn’t bigger than Arguello in their fights at all, though I believe I’ve said as much myself in the past, likely to make a point.

    DuJuan Johnson, a big time puncher and natural Welterweight, was clearly a full weight class bigger in the ring. He hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and Pryor never balked. He seemed to instantaneously shake off the ones that buzzed him and responded with less caution than before. Instead of gathering himself as others would need to, he went into a frenzy and blitzed him with two fisted kamikaze combinations until he broke him.

    Arguello was not a shell in their first match. Not peak or anything, but still a great fighter who carried his power up with damn near the same effect. He showed it clear as day against Rooney right before the Pryor fight. Probably the best one punch KO of his entire career. He was still a terminator.

    If you’re still unconvinced, watch him come off a two year retirement and soak up blows round after round from very recently dethroned Jr. Welterweight champ Billy Costello in an over the weight bout. Both guys roughly mid 140s. He was given little to no chance, and Costello was expected to capture his title back sooner rather than later. Then he landed his right hand in round 4 and the end followed soon after. He was one of the very best punchers ever. He just couldn’t deter the Hawk.

    At 135 I think you’d need a Duran or Chavez or Armstrong to break him down.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    I think the 'worst' fighter I'd pick to beat him, is Manny Pacquiao. I would pick Pacquiao to thrash him and stop him in the first half, but that's a styles thing TBH, but I think it says something about his level. Especially considering I have quite a low opinion compared to others on here.

    Although my thoughts on Pryor's chin are pretty all over the place. I think it's good, I mean, it has to be to engage like that with Alexis Arguello. But he was definitely hurt vs Johnson, and he's said himself that both Arguello and Hinton hurt him. I think it's a good thing that he managed to come through both of those fights though. I tend to think he suffers from the same thing as Charles, Tito or Marquez. He's easy to put down but hard to stop.
     
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  15. Bujia

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    Pacquiao is a very good choice, too. The edge in power could well be the difference. What a fight.
     
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