THE CLASSIC HALL OF FAME INAUGURAL INDUCTION: The Heavyweights (Closed - Results In)

Jack Johnson
Harry Wills
Jim Jeffries
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier

 

Hi I have seen your Yeoman's efforts & before I vote on tis maybe your final division, a couple questions:

1) Is it greatness as we define it, or are we free to consider accomplishments, H2H, impact upon the sport-how should this be weighted?
Many Hall of Fames make arguments for FAME & social impact as worthy of induction-should we?
For example the early guys are handicapped-a peak Langford & Dempsey & Marciano would

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be weighing in as a LHW today, if in ring at their actual fighting weights.

2) For the only division without a max. weight, is pound for pound relevant?
So would this put the listed fighters on an equal footing, & let's say I find a 210-215 guy clearly but not hugely better than a 185-190 lb. man: would I pick the latter as more worthy, because I should consider weight & size?

 

Son on a Beach, you got back to me immediately-you must be working 'round the clock!
At this rate will be at 100K very soooon!
Remember we are counting on you to make 100,000 special, & something noteworthy for the penultimate 999,999...

OK, SINCE you mentioned lb. 4 lb. & made HW no exception...
AND you did not specify the terms, although my overwhelming usual impulse is to use overall accomplishments & H2H, I will make it fame & size adjusted.
Why no Fitzsimmons if actual weight is not a disqualification?
For that matter why no Sullivan? Not that they would quite make my top 7...

Louis.
Ali.
Johnson.
Dempsey.
Marciano.
Foreman.
Liston.

Frazier easily could make it, but considering total fights-& not told that amateur years have a bearing here-I went with Liston.
Foreman had the second career accomplishments & renown.
As could Langford, Jeffries or Willis qualify-but they had less overall impact than the other early men.

But I want a balance between the eras & literal fame unless you are disqualifying that.

 

Foreman was approaching 49 when he had his final fight on 11/22/97.

 

Soon enough.

 

Louis
Ali
Marciano
Johnson
Foreman
Dempsey
Frazier

 

Ali
Louis
Langford
Frazier
Foreman
Liston
Marciano

 

Lol at Dubble having his ejector seat activated for being a gonk.

 

Jack Johnson (1897-1931)
James J Corbett (1886-1903)
Jersey Joe Walcott (1930-1953)
Joe Louis (1934-1951)
Sam Langford (1902 -1926)
Muhammad Ali (1960-1981)
Rocky Marciano (1947-1955)

@McGrain

 

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