The majority of what I've seen of Kingpetch is limited to youtube and so on, though I see an excellent stand-up boxer when I watch him. That said, the clips of his fight against Seki seem to show Seki having the edge overall and doing the better work, though it was close. Hard to always tell due to the age of the footage. Then we have the Harada and Ebihara rematches, neither of which I've seen, though most of what I've heard and read seems to indicate that he was extremely lucky to win back the title both times (in Thailand, I might add). And especially after the heavy defeats they both inflicted on him first time around in Japan (though it says something for his fighting spirit coming back to go the distance with both of them). He could have also lost the first Perez fight, though I didn't have a problem with him getting the nod. Perez, however, wasn't really the Perez of old from what I can tell. Thanks to McGrain (and RagingBull, I think) for putting up the footage of the Seki fight btw. Anybody got any thoughts?
From what I've seen, he was gifted the wins over Ebihara and Harada, and based on the footage of the Perez bout he could've lost that one as well, although it was at least close. I agree with your synopsis on the Seki bout as well. Kingpetch was a very good fighter, but also very overrated based on his record.
This is the sneaking sort of suspicion that was starting to manifest itself in the back of my head and seems to be increasing ever more. I was impressed when I first took a look at his record some time ago. Two wins over Perez with revenge over Harada and Ebihara after being stopped first time around and a decision over a man who ended up distinguishing himself two divisions above. Not quite the case, though I suppose you have to credit him for mixing it up with that level of opponent regardless of controversy, even if Perez was a bit past it.
I thought Perez was outright robbed in their first fight. The Harada rematch was questionable IMO, but close, with Harada building up a big lead over the first 8 or 9 rounds (and scoring a KD along the way), and then Kingpetch sweeping the championship rounds. I do believe Harada probably deserved the nod, but if you managed to swing a couple of the closer early rounds to Kingpetch, then a Kingpetch victory isn't out of the question at all. The Ebihara rematch was a largely semi-tactical fight, and I thought Kingpetch's constant jabbing probably earned him that one fair and square.
I've only seen two of his, both bouts with Harada. He was REEAAALLLL lucky to get that nod. Awful, awful decision.
:huhHe was throwing a lot, landing a little, and getting countered and tagged often with straight lefts from the 9 rounds of footage I've seen. I thought Ebihara looked easily the superior fighter.
Could be worth scoring them all to try and come to a forum consensus, if someone can get them all up on youtube for everyone to see the same copies. To be absolutely fair to Pone, the Harada and Ebihara return bouts are incomplete, though both suggest he was given the hometown benefit of the doubt, possibly even if you gave him all the rounds missing and most of the close ones. I'd also say however that he fought very well and has nothign to be ashamed of those efforts. First Perez could have gone either way imo, but it's another i would like to review.
Cheers for the input gentlemen. I'd be keen on lora's idea of coming to a general consensus, were the relevant fights made available for wider viewing.
I'll be watching his two fights with Harada in an hour or two...I'll give you my input after. I've never seen him fight before. I'll upload them on Youtube as soon as I can.
I don't know the code of conduct on the forum regarding torrents but let's just say, I'm going to have to wait a further 30-40 minutes before I can delve into these fights. I only first saw Fighting Harada the other week in his first battle with Bantamweight king, Eder Jofre. He really, really impressed me.
He smashes kingpetch to bits in the first fight.One of the really great performances by a young fighter against an excellent opponent. Kingpetch does very well to come back and be as competitive as he is in the rematch. One problem i think Kingpetch had is that he was laid back and varied with his jab, hardly a bad thing per se, but with his upright stance, range and relatively average reflexes/defence, it maybe would have served him better more of a dominating Hearns or quartey type with it.He didn't have quite the timing or slip and countering to get away with using it like a Monzon or Napoles.
Cant remember my score for the first Perez fight with Kingpetch. But I liked the way Kingpetch kept him off balance with the jab and banged in that uppercut when Perez did get through it. Thought it was a good display of jabbing and countering behind it. But it has been a while since I seen it. The rematch with Harada is a plain robbery, a great fight but a poor decision. Harada is pretty much all over him again.